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Customer Complaints Summary
- 155 total complaints in the last 3 years.
- 48 complaints closed in the last 12 months.
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Initial Complaint
Date:01/12/2023
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
We purchased a home from DR Horton in 2019 and at that time, they were partnered with Guardian Protection for their Smart Home Features. After we moved into our home, a Guardian Tech came to our house to set up the "Smart Hub" and use of the Alarm.com app to control all our our Smart Devices. Of course they gave us their sales pitch for additional security services they offer which we declined. At that time, there was no mention that we would be starting a 3 year trial period for use of the Alarm.com app to control the Smart ZWave devices that we now OWNED and at the termination of that 3 year trial, we would no longer have access to these ZWAVE devices to function as they are designed because they would be locked by the Guardian HUB. I wasn't given any sort of notice that our "courtesy trial period" was due to expire to go over options etc. I only figured out that we were no longer in our trial when we couldn't access the alarm.com app to control our ZWAVE smart devices any more. At that point, I called Guardian to find out what was going on and after spending over 2.5 hours on different occasions, they refuse to send a technician out at no charge to me to disconnect our zwave devices that are our personal property. The only way that they will help is to charge me 120.00 for the 1st half hour and an additional charge for every 15 minutes thereafter to simply give me access back to the devices that they locked unbeknownst to us when they set up our equipment at the beginning of our "trial". Had I know that we would not be able to gain access to the devices we own after this "courtesy trial period" I would have never agreed to allow them to connect them to their useless hub. I have contacted our Builder to discuss my options with them as well. They are no longer partnered with Guardian, probably because of the terrible customer service Guardian provides.Customer Answer
Date: 01/13/2023
They assured me that a supervisor would call me back today 1/13/2023 to complete the resolution.
I just spoke with the supervisor named Ken, who was able to re-activate the account for 6 minutes and get the issue resolved.
Thank you for your assistance in getting this resolved. It's unfortunate it took coming to the BBB to get a resolution.Sincerely,
******* *****Initial Complaint
Date:12/18/2022
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I have to move and have an on going contract. I have to move at 69 because of my health and they told me that I couldn't take the service because they no longer support this area. I have to pay a cancellation fee
even though I wanted to
carry the service to my apartment complex where I am moving. This is crazy because the charge is around $800.00. ******* * ******** ** **** *** ********** ** ******** ****** ** ***** ************Business Response
Date: 12/19/2022
December 19, 2022
BBB of Western Pennsylvania
520 E Main St, Suite 100
Carnegie, PA 15106
RE: ******* * ******** ** * ********* ** ********
**** *** *****
Thank you for forwarding our
customer’s complaint to Guardian Protection Services, Inc. (“Guardian”). Guardian is a customer-centric organization
and values the opportunity to address any concern.
Our customer has states he
has to move for health reasons and is upset Guardian isn’t able to relocate his
service in his current area. He is upset
with the Early Termination Fee, which is $750.00.
Our customer received an installation
of a security system with a smoke detector, a video doorbell, and an outdoor
camera at no charge in exchange for his 60-month monitoring commitment at his
current home. While Guardian has put
several options in place to try to assist our customers who move, Guardian cannot
Guarantee these options are always available. Like many other businesses, service areas may change from time to time
and stores/branches may close. It is for
this reason there are no Agreement Terms regarding the relocation of services
to a new property or transferring the service to a new owner.
Guardian recoups the cost of
free and discounted installations items over the course of a customer’s
monitoring agreement. At this juncture,
Guardian has not yet recovered its investment and is unable to waive the $750.00
Early Termination Fee. We urge our customer
to keep this settlement fee in mind when accepting offers on his property
Thank you for informing Guardian of the additional
concerns. Should you have any questions,
please contact Guardian at (800) 776-8328.
Sincerely,
Agency Complaint Response
TeamInitial Complaint
Date:12/13/2022
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
To the best of my recollection, a representative from Guardian Protection came to.my and offered to replace my existing home security protection with Alder security. The representative assured me that Alder would be notified that Guardian was now providing a security system in my home. This wax not done and for some time, as a result, negligence resulted in my paying for 2 security systems.This only to my attention within the last month when an Alder technician came to my home and informed the equipment he was there to update belonged to another company! I was continuing to pay Guardian but had been informed by the technician that my account with Alder was paid in full!Business Response
Date: 12/16/2022
December 16. 2021
BBB of Western Pennsylvania
***** ********* ****
520 E Main St, Suite 100
Carnegie, PA 15106
RE: ***** ******** * ********* ** ********
**** *** *****
Thank
you for forwarding our customer’s complaint to Guardian Protection Services,
Inc. (“Guardian”). Guardian is a
customer-centric organization and values the opportunity to address any
concern.
Our
customer states he was told at the time of sale that Alder Security would be
notified that Guardian was now providing a system and monitoring services in
his home and that he was still making payments to Alder Security.
A
review of our customers account revealed his security system was sold and
installed by AMP Security (AMP) whereby all aspects of the sale and
installation, including the electronic paperwork, took place directly with AMP. AMP is a separate and distinct company from
Guardian, for which Guardian provided 24-hour monitoring and related services
for customers whose systems were sold and installed by AMP, and later purchased
our customer’s account from AMP. Guardian did not control any day-to-day
business activities or internal policies or procedures of Ranger, including
security evaluations, sales processes, installation practices or any other
aspects of AMP’s business.
Guardian
was sorry to learn there was a miscommunication between AMP’s sales representative
and our customer. Due to the liability
in this industry, most monitoring companies will only cancel and account when
the request is made by the verified owner of the account.
A Guardian
representative tried reaching our customer by phone but was unsuccessful. She
left a detailed voice message regarding his Guardian account. If he hasn’t already done so, our customer
needs to contact Alder Security and personally request the cancelation of his
account with them. Guardian would also
like to note we found a past due bill for an upgrade performed some time ago and
have credited the amount bringing our customer’s balance to $0.00.
Thank you for informing Guardian
of our customer’s correspondences. Should you have any questions, please contact Guardian at (800) 776-8328.
Sincerely,
Agency Complaint Response
TeamInitial Complaint
Date:12/13/2022
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
This company is so very deceptive. I signed up through AAA and had equipment installed. Every couple of weeks the doorbell camera would stop working and I would have to fight to get it replaced. Each tech would blame the other for terrible workmanship and the last tech advised I needed to have an electrician come out. I paid money out of pocket to do so and the electrician did what the tech advised, which still did not solve the problem. After the 4th replacement AAA refused to assist me as they had sold the contract to Guardian. Guardian finally sent a tech out and said it needed to be replaced, and I would have to pay for it. I have gone back and forth for two years between both companies, spent hours on the phone, talked to some very helpful reps, and some very awful reps. I still don’t have a working doorbell camera and to cancel my contract they want $1500! So it’s either pay tons of money for faulty equipment that they install, or pay tons of money to get out of a contract. Someone tried to get into my house in October and I can’t even offer the police a picture as my camera doesn’t work, mind you I pay for services and equipment rental every month. Thankfully I have a large dog that scared the intruder away. I’m so stressed out and disgusted with this company, I just want out! I can’t even think about this system without getting angry and having my blood pressure sky rocket. Home security is supposed to be easy and leave you with peace of mind, not THIS!Business Response
Date: 12/22/2022
December 22, 2022
BBB of Western Pennsylvania
520 E Main St, Suite 100
Carnegie, PA 15106
RE: ******* ****** * ********* ** ********
**** *** *****
Thank you for forwarding our
customer’s complaint to Guardian Protection Services, Inc. (“Guardian”). Guardian is a customer-centric organization
and values the opportunity to address any concern.
Our customer has expressed
dissatisfaction with the performance of her. She stated it stopped working
every couple of weeks, she had multiple service calls and had an electrician
out as suggested, but it did not solve the problem. Our customer states her
sales company, AAA, refused to service it after replacing it four times. She states she still doesn’t have a working
doorbell and is unhappy with the payment needed to cancel her account/agreement.
For background, our
customer’s security system was sold and installed by AAA Home Security (AAA)
whereby all aspects of the sale and installation, including the electronic
paperwork, took place directly with AAA. AAA is a separate and distinct company from Guardian, for which Guardian
provided 24-hour monitoring and related services for customers whose systems
were sold and installed by AAA. Guardian does not control any day-to-day
business activities or any internal policies or procedures of AAA, including
security evaluations, sales processes, installation practices or any other
aspects of AAA’s business. Guardian purchased our customer’s account from AAA
approximately a year after the system installation, later causing some
confusion as to which company should service her doorbell during the transition
of account ownership.
Guardian is sorry to hear our
customer has had a poor experience with her video doorbell. Guardian performed several reviews of her
account and service history before and after speaking with her about her BBB
complaint and video doorbell issues.
Our customer’s security
system, including the video doorbell, was installed by AAA on May 7, 2021. The
Video Doorbell is currently out of warranty and no longer covered by her repair
plan. Guardian’s records show following:
** 05/29/2021 Our customer with a video doorbell issue. A representative successfully assisted with bringing her video doorbell online after possibly being kicked of line when our customer was setting up their Amazon Alexa service.
** 7/11/2021Our customer called and reported her video doorbell was making a strange sound. A Guardian representative helped her reboot the device and it began working normally.
** 2/24/2022Our customer called due to an issue with her video doorbell. It appeared the video doorbell was not receiving power. Our customer declined a service call because she did not wish to pay the service co-pay in place at the time. Our customer wanted to discuss the terms of her agreement and possibly terminating it early. Guardian forwarded a request to AAA to contact the customer as AAA still had ownership of her account. AAA reported back to Guardian that they confirmed the terms of the agreement. AAA also scheduled one of their technicians to service the video doorbell on 3/5/2022.AAA reports the technician took the doorbell down then reattached it and it began working properly.
** 6/23/2022Our customer called because her video doorbell was not working again and she believed it was not getting power. A Guardian representative offered service at billable rates since the video doorbell was out of warranty. He also advised if the issue is a power issue, she needed to contact an electrician to check the wiring and circuit (the video doorbell replaces the customer’s standard doorbell button and uses the existing doorbell wiring).He told the customer AAA may be willing to assist her since they had been out there in March, but they may transfer her back to Guardian as Guardian now had ownership of her account.
** Guardian
learned recently that AAA had sent a technician on site on 6/29/2022, at no
charge, and he found the voltage of our customer’s doorbell wire fluctuating
wildly. The technician advised our
customer she needed an electrician to check her wiring. The customer insisted the issue was with the
video doorbell so AAA replaced the video doorbell again but informed her it
would not fix the problem.
** 10/26/2022 Our customer called for technical support for her video doorbell. The representative found the video doorbell was stuck in a reboot mode. Our customer refused to troubleshoot or pay for a technician to service the video doorbell. She advised she would call AAA for assistance.
It is Guardian’s opinion that
our customer has had an issue with her doorbell wiring from the beginning and
it may have worsened with time. Voltage
fluctuations, high and low, could easily cause the issues our customer
experienced, and most likely damaged the video doorbells. Our customer reported she did finally have an
electrician out to check and repair the wiring, but it’s possible the video
doorbell was already damaged. The video doorbell had a 90-day limited warranty
which has expired. The limited warranty
would not have covered repairs or replacement resulting from voltage drops and
spikes from our customer’s electrical wiring.
Guardian nonetheless has offered
to provide our customer with a 50% discount to install a new video doorbell,
hardwired or wireless, or to cancel the video doorbell service and reduce her
monthly fee by $5.00 for the duration of her current monitoring term. Our customer has indicated she is not
satisfied with either of these offers. Guardian will extend these offers for 30
days from the date of this correspondence should the customer reconsider.
Thank you for informing Guardian of this matter. Should you have any questions, please contact
Guardian at (800) 776-8328.
Sincerely,
Agency Complaint Response
TeamInitial Complaint
Date:11/29/2022
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I have a contract with Guardian Protection. It is for 5 years and I have 23 months left. My job is moving me to another state, AZ. I called Guardian and they said they do not provide service in AZ. So I will have to have the new owners of the house take over, or pay an early termination fee of 1200 and some dollars. This is mind blowing. I am not given an option to continue service because of their lack of service ability, and yet they still expect me to pay the contract in full. This is one of the worst businesses I have ever had to deal with.Business Response
Date: 12/08/2022
December 8, 2022
BBB of Western Pennsylvania
***** ********* ****
520 E Main St, Suite 100
Carnegie, PA 15106
RE: **** ***** * ********* ** ********
**** *** *****
Thank you for forwarding our
customer’s complaint to Guardian Protection Services, Inc. (“Guardian”). Guardian is a customer-centric organization
and values the opportunity to address any concern.
Our customer has stated he is
in a five (5) year contract with Guardian, his job is moving him to another
state where Guardian does not provide service and is unhappy with the Early
Termination Fee noted in his agreement. Our customer would like to pay just $100.00 to settle his account should
the buyers of his current home not sign up for monitoring services with Guardian.
For background, our
customer’s security system was sold and installed by Core Smart Protection, LLC
(Core Smart) whereby all aspects of the sale and installation, including the
electronic paperwork, took place directly with Core Smart. Our customer received a professional
installation of a security system with video doorbell, smart door lock and
smart lights at absolutely no cost to him in exchange for his monitoring
commitment. The value of the
installation was approximate $2000.00.
After a year of service with
the customer, Guardian purchased our customer’s account from Core Smart for a
considerable sum of money. The purchase
price was based on the 60-month monitoring term and monthly fee of $49.99 that
are a part of his agreement. Guardian’s
investment in his account has not yet been recouped.
Guardian is a
customer-centric organization that has put several options in place to assist
our customers who move. Guardian offers
to relocate services to a new residence when possible, or to waive the balance
of a customer’s agreement term if the new owner subscribes to monitoring
services with Guardian. These
alternatives to payment of their Early Termination Fee, or paying off the value
of the remaining months, are not referenced or guaranteed in any agreement.
A Guardian representative has
spoken with our customer. Based on the nature of our customer’s
employment and relocation, Guardian has offered to accept a payment of $600.00
to settle the twenty-two (22) unpaid months remaining on his monitoring
term.
Thank you for informing Guardian of the additional
concerns. Should you have any questions,
please contact Guardian at (800) 776-8328.
Sincerely,
Agency Complaint Response
TeamCustomer Answer
Date: 12/14/2022
Better Business Bureau:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********* and have determined that this does not resolve my complaint. For your reference, details of the offer I reviewed appear below.Guardian does NOT provide service in my area in Arizona. I supplied a photo of my new gas bill here in Arizona. I was told when I purchased the system that when I moved, it would move with me. Guardian can not supply service here and is in breach of contract. I will not pay for service they can not provide.
Guardian claims to be all about the customer, but I do not see that in any case. Nor will others who see this scenario. I have agreed to pay a reasonable fee of 100 dollars. This is Guardians fault, not mine. I should not have to pay anything.
[To assist us in bringing this matter to a close, we would like to know your view on the matter.]
Regards,
**** *****Business Response
Date: 12/16/2022
December 16, 2022
BBB of Western Pennsylvania
***** ********* ****
520 E Main St, Suite 100
Carnegie, PA 15106
*** **** ***** * ********* ** ********
**** *** *****
Thank you for forwarding our
customer’s additional comments regarding the above referenced complaint to Guardian
Protection Services, Inc. (“Guardian”). Guardian appreciates the opportunity to respond
to our customer’s statements in his most recent correspondence.
Our customer states he moved
to Arizona and Guardian does not provide service in Arizona. He further states he was advised at the time
of sale that when he moved, it would move with him. Our customer believes
Guardian is in breach of contract. His response states he will not pay for
service Guardian cannot provide and offered to settle his account for $100.00.
Our customer signed
agreements for the installation and monitoring of a security system in his
Indiana home. When doing so, our
customer made a commitment to monitoring at that home in exchange for a
discounted installation. The agreements
(attached) were reviewed in detail. Neither
the agreement language nor the special conditions contain any reference to relocating
service. Neither Core Smart nor Guardian
guarantee the availability of the options to relocate service or be released
from their agreement if a buyer of their monitored home subscribes with
Guardian, therefore there is no breach of contract.
Guardian’s offer to settle
the account for $600.00 is unchanged and generous considering the Early
Termination Fee is $1,250.00 and the value of the unpaid months on his monitoring
term is $1099.78.
Thank you for the opportunity to address our customer’s additional
comments. Should you have any questions, please contact Guardian directly at
(800) 776-8328.
Sincerely,
Agency Complaint Response TeamInitial Complaint
Date:11/28/2022
Type:Product IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
In September of 2001, we notified Guardian Protection we were moving to a new address. We were let out of our control since the people who moved into our house signed up with Guardian for monitoring services. Guardian suggested that we keep making money payments and the sum of those payments would be used towards equipment costs for the new security system in the new house. So far, I think we paid approximately $650. We made the tough decision to no longer use Guardian as their pricing increased dramatically over what we were used to. They are telling me that I can't receive the $650 refund that I kept on my account. They never told me that I wouldn't be allowed to receive the money back. This is absurd. I am not in a contract. I would like to receive the refund of all the monies I paid.Business Response
Date: 12/05/2022
December 5, 2022
BBB of Western Pennsylvania
***** ********* ****
520 E Main St, Suite 100
Carnegie, PA 15106
RE: ****** **** * ********* ** ********
**** *** *****
Thank you for forwarding the
above referenced complaint to Guardian Protection Services, Inc. (“Guardian”). Guardian
values the opportunity to address any concern.
Our customer has expressed the
desire to be released from his current monitoring agreement that is still
billing for his former home. He stated
he was released from the agreement when the new owners moved into the home and
signed up with Guardian. Our customer is
asking to be refunded for payments made for the continued billing of the
agreement because he is not in an agreement.
Guardian is a
customer-centric organization that offers a number of programs to assist our
customers with early termination in the event they move. Guardian offers to relocate services to a new
premises when possible, to release a customer from their agreement if a buyer
subscribes and activates service in their name, and in the worst-case scenario make
payment of an Early Termination Fee.
Upon reviewing the property
address of our customer’s former home, we found no new services in effect. We
checked all databases and found no record of anyone inquiring about, or signing
up for, service at the property after our customer sold the home. Had the new owner subscribed and activated service
at the property, and Guardian continued to bill our customer due to an error, Guardian
absolutely would correct the billing error and refund the thirteen (13) payments
(less the sales tax collected) he made.
Guardian did provide our
customer with some quotes for relocating his service, and also offered to apply
his 13 payments in question to the new installation, but he has declined. This leaves our customer with the option to continue
payments monthly until the remaining twenty-six (26) months of his agreement term are paid, or to pay his $750.00 Early
Termination Fee. Guardian has generously agreed to treating the 13 payments he
made as installments to the $750.00 Early Termination Fee. To date our customer has paid $577.72 in monitoring
fees after he sold the property. Guardian
has offered to accept one final payment (installment) in the amount of $172.28
to pay off the Early Termination Fee and fully settle his account. Our customer is currently considering this
offer.
Thank you for advising Guardian
of this matter and the opportunity to provide additional assistance to our
customer. Should you have any questions,
please contact Guardian at (800) 776-8328.
Sincerely,
Agency Complaint Response
TeamInitial Complaint
Date:11/18/2022
Type:Order IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
If I could give a negative review I would. Extremally deceptive and misleading.
The technician has an ipad with all the signatures preloaded & won't give you time to read it. We were told it was a yearly contract yet in tiny print on the contract (that they finally gave me), it says 60m.
I told them I wouldn't live here that long & its why I wanted a shorter contract. With it being a higher monthly cost, I assumed wrong that was due to the shorter contract, that we discussed.
I was told by customer service that I had 72 hours after signing up to review the contract but I wasn't emailed it for over a week, past the 72 hour mark. A 5y contract is not what was advertised, discussed, or agreed upon. My name was preloaded onto so many sections that had I been properly informed on, would never had done. The technician "explained" every section I was signing...but what he said is not what was signed. It's $750 to cancel the service, that I never agreed to, plus a $35 phone fee.
I've now been locked out of my account & now it says my mother's maiden name is wrong. I know her name, plus I know it worked yesterday to log in. I can't even log in to pay my bill or cancel it.
The alarm system itself is extremally dissatisfactory. $55/m for 2 tiny door sensors & a glass break sensor, no window sensors, no cameras, no lights, no doorbell, nothing. Their competitor costs less than half what Guardian does and comes all of those & more!
Guardians sensor is dysfunctional too. I don't even have 1 second to open my door and input the passcode before the alarm goes off and they call me. We now have to partially open the door quickly enter the passcode before the extremally loud alarm goes off, & still that doesn't work always.
Customer service number is confusing to use & never has the option you need & are extremally unfriendly + mocking you.
I am so angry at Guardian I am considering hiring an attorney to get my money back + out of this contract.
DO NOT USE GAURDIAN PROTECTION!!Business Response
Date: 11/28/2022
November 28, 2022
BBB of Western Pennsylvania
***** ********* ****
520 E Main St, Suite 100
Carnegie, PA 15106
RE: ****** ******* * ********* ** ********
Dea* *** *****
Thank you for forwarding our
customer’s complaint to Guardian Protection Services, Inc. (“Guardian”). Guardian is a customer-centric organization
and values the opportunity to review her account and work with her to resolve
her issues.
Our customer expressed
dissatisfaction with the sale and performance of his security system. Our customer believed they were told they had
a yearly contract and were upset to learn it had a 60-month term, and the
monthly fee was high. He was unhappy and
felt he didn’t have time to review the agreement at the time of installation
when he signed it. Our customer also noted the system hasn’t been working
properly since the time of installation and they were recently locked out of
their account.
Guardian is sorry to hear of
our customer’s experience. An account
review was performed upon receipt of his complaint. Our records found our customer had been sold
his system and services by Guardian’s authorized dealer, AAA Home Security,
whereby all aspects of the sale and initial of the paperwork took place
directly with AAA Home Security. AAA Home
Security is a separate and distinct company from Guardian, for which Guardian
provides installation, 24-hour monitoring and related services for customers
whose systems were sold by them. Guardian does not control any day-to-day business
activities or any internal policies or procedures of AAA Home Security,
including security evaluations, sales processes, or any other aspects of AAA
Home Security’s business.
Guardian’s records show the Agreements
were emailed to our customer on May 3, 2022 and the email was viewed by our customer that same day, as documented
on the attached “Packet History”, but not initialed and signed. On May 13, 2022, Guardian’s technician
arrived on site to install the system but found our customer had never
completed the e-signing process of the agreements that had been emailed to
him. Guardian’s technician would not have
been able to perform the installation with unsigned paperwork. If the customer wished to keep the
installation and activation appointment that date, Guardian’s technician would
have opened the documents on his tablet to facilitate the execution of the
agreements. He would not have discussed
agreement terms negotiated by AAA Home Security and our customer.
Our customer ended up having
ten (10) days to review the terms of the agreement and only had to complete the
sale/signing transaction if he wished to have the system installed with services
commencing on May 13, 2022. One of the
agreement terms provided a significant discount if our customer enrolled in
Guardian’s autopay service.
A Guardian representative
reached out to our customer upon completion of the account to apologize for
their experience, review Guardian’s research findings, and work with our
customer to resolve their system issue. Our customer is currently trying a new arming routine in an effort to
avoid the system overriding their arming instructions. If this does not resolve the issue, Guardian
will send a service technician on site at no charge to our customer. The representative is also assisting our
customer with re-registering with Guardian’s Customer Support webpage.
Thank you for informing Guardian of this matter and for
the opportunity to review the account and resolve our customer’s issues. Should you have any questions, please contact
Guardian at (800) 776-8328.
Sincerely,
Agency Complaint Response
TeamInitial Complaint
Date:11/11/2022
Type:Sales and Advertising IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
Six months ago I disconnected my service with guardian because their system kept getting hacked I had adt disconnect it and install their system. The same day I had guardian say I had to stay with them that I had a contract. I should have had no contract they didn’t install any of their system. I used all the existing alarm I had, and all they had to do was monitor. I had a brinks system that I had purchased from brinks. Now they are trying to charge me for all the past months. I have been arguing with them about it for six months and they are damaging my credit. I work hard for my money and am barely surviving I’m not going to let them take advantage of me. I can not afford for them to take advantage of me. I’m on Medicaid Medicare and food stamps and am just trying to survive.Business Response
Date: 11/11/2022
November 11, 2022
BBB of Western Pennsylvania
***** ********* ****
520 E Main St, Suite 100
Carnegie, PA 15106
*** ***** **** * ********* ********
**** *** *****
Thank you for advising Guardian
Protection Services, Inc. (“Guardian”) of the above referenced complaint.
Guardian values every opportunity to research and resolve our customers’ issue(s).
Our customer stated he
disconnected his Guardian system, because it was being hacked, and had ADT
install a new system. He was upset to
learn he had a 60-month agreement and Guardian would not release him from it
even though Guardian had not installed any new equipment at the time of
installation.
A review of our customer’s
account confirm he had concerns about his security and called for assistance
changing arming codes and passwords a number of times. Guardian would like to state the interactive
service our customer used has never been hacked. This does not rule out the
potential of his security information being compromised at a local level.
Guardian was also able to
confirm we did not install any equipment and our only investment at the time of
installation was for the labor to create a new account, reprogram the system and
test all devices. Our customer would
have been eligible for a shorter agreement term than the one he signed and
would have satisfied it as of the date he changed providers.
A Guardian representative
contacted our customer to advise we would cancel his account and credit the
current account balance. The credits
have been placed on the account and a release letter was sent to our customer.
Guardian is sorry our
customer lost his peace of mind and urges him to keep his master level security
information private. He should be able set up secondary codes and limited passwords
with his new provider for other persons using his new security system.
Thank you for bringing this
matter to Guardian’s attention. Should you have any questions, please contact Guardian
at (800) 776-8328.
Sincerely,
Agency Complaint Response
TeamInitial Complaint
Date:11/09/2022
Type:Service or Repair IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
We purchased a home security system that included a motion sensor doorbell cam for our front door, sensors on all non-second story access windows and doors and a motion sensor for inside our home to detect movement when the alarm is on. Every event was to be sent to my cell phone's Guardian Pro app.
The system worked as marketed for little more than a few weeks and then the doorbell didn't work. It diidn't not sound or alert my phone app. Customer Service and Tech Support kept telling us we didn't have enough power to properly support the sytem's functionaltiy and we needed to have an electrition replace our transformer.
To make a very long, expensive and frustrating story short, and after asking we the company multiple times to fix the problem, they finally sent a tech out on or about 7/2/22 named Jeff. He tested the system and looked at the installation and said "This was never going to work properly. It was installed incorrectly and your wiring doesnt support the device. It's totally f***** up." Yes, he used that word, also shocking. He said they work with another company Security Force for installs and he would go to corporate to find out who would fix the problem. Months later, no fix, we continue to be told this is OUR problem when they never should have installed it in the first place since we weren't a fit for their services. We have paid $1,205.61 is monthly charges. We have stopped access to our Wells Fargo account for automatic withdrawals and they still won't cancel the policy, and they want us to pay some $3k for early termination of a 3 year contract. They also said we now own the equipment so they wouldn't uninstall it or pick it up. This is one of the most unscrupulous companies I have ever encounter and my first BBB filed complaint in my life. Please help us and prevent more victims. If they had just fixed the problem everything would be fine, but they absolutely refuse to do so.Business Response
Date: 11/15/2022
November 15, 2022
BBB of Western Pennsylvania
520 E Main St, Suite 100
Carnegie, PA 15106
RE: ****** *************** * ********* ** ********
**** *** *****
Thank you for forwarding our
customer’s complaint to Guardian Protection Services, Inc. (“Guardian”). Guardian is a customer-centric organization
and values the opportunity to address any concern.
Our customer has expressed
dissatisfaction with the performance of their Video Doorbell, the results of an
inspection by a Guardian technician, the lack of a repair and being quoted the
necessity of paying an Early Termination Fee to cancel their account.
For background, our
customer’s security system was sold and installed by Security Force, Inc. (Security
Force) whereby all aspects of the sale and installation, including the
electronic paperwork, took place directly with Security Force. Security Force is a separate and distinct
company from Guardian, for which Guardian provided 24-hour monitoring and
related services for customers whose systems were sold and installed by Security
Force, and later purchased our customer’s account from Security Force. Guardian
does not control any day-to-day business activities or any internal policies or
procedures of Security Force, including security evaluations, sales processes,
installation practices or any other aspects of Ranger’s business.
Guardian was sorry to learn our
customer has had a poor experience with his video doorbell. Guardian did send one of its own technicians
to the site on July 7, 2022, with the intent to have the video doorbell
repaired or replaced. Guardian’s technician
found the wiring was not according to Guardian’s standards and practices. The device was installed in such a way that a
licensed electrician would need to make any changes to the doorbell
wiring.
Unfortunately, Guardian’s
technicians are not licensed electricians, and it is for this reason that
Guardian has agreed to release them from the Security Force, Inc.’s Agreement
for Monitoring and Installation of Security System dated March 8, 2021.
Guardian has begun the
process of terminating our customer’s account without further penalty or
obligation. The billing of the account
has been stopped and the account balance has been credited to $0.00.
Thank you for informing Guardian of the additional
concerns. Should you have any questions,
please contact Guardian at (800) 776-8328.
Sincerely,
Agency Complaint Response
TeamCustomer Answer
Date: 11/15/2022
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Better Business Bureau:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********* and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.
Regards,
****** ***************Initial Complaint
Date:11/02/2022
Type:Order IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
On July 17, 2015 a AMP Security salesperson unexpectedly came to sell us an alarm system. I told the salesperson that I didn't have time for a sales pitch because we were leaving on a trip the next day. Over the next 2 hours he continued to hard sell me on a "better deal" than we already had with a competitor. In desperation to get him to leave, my wife and I signed a 5 year contract with AMP Security (now Guardian Security). In November of 2018, I called Guardian to cancel the service, due to our moving and we wouldn't need it. I was told that we could either move the equipment with us, at no charge, or pay a $750 early termination fee. We decided to move the alarm (although we really didn't need it), and fulfill the remaining contract balance of 1 year & 8 months. The alarm was installed along with additional equipment. Before the installer left, my wife asked if we needed to sign anything. The installer said "no that is not necessary". Neither my wife or I signed or received any paperwork. In December of 2021, I called Guardian Security to cancel the service, as we were moving, we had fulfilled the original 2015 contract and it was no longer needed. I was informed that the company would be changing us $750 for early termination of the contract. I was also informed that the contract date was renewed for another 5 years in 2018, when the alarm system was moved. I stated that we didn't sign or receive a new contract and was never told that the contract had renewed for an additional 5 years. I was told I signed a contract electronically, which at my age I don't even know how to do! I enlisted my daughter's help, who on February 5, 2022 called Guardian. She was told the same thing and that the only exception would be if we were moving into assisted living, which we cannot afford to do. On Feb.15,2022 we sent a letter and a copy of the bill to Guardian. We have since received threatening letters & our account has been sent to debt collectors. (See attachment)Business Response
Date: 11/16/2022
November
15, 2022
BBB of
Western Pennsylvania
***** ********* ****
520 E Main
Street, Suite 100
Carnegie,
PA 15106
RE: ******* ******* * ********* ** ********
**** *** *****
Guardian
Protection Services, Inc. (“Guardian”) is in receipt of our customer’s
complaint and values the opportunity to provide a response.
Our
customer states they were surprised to learn they had a new 5-year contract
that was signed in 2018 when the relocated service to a new home. Our customer states they did not sign any
electronic paperwork with the technician and were never told the new contract
would be for a new 5-year term. The
customer has asked to be released from the original contract term and only pay
for service through December 2021 when they notified Guardian they were moving
again.
As our
customer stated, they had a security system installed in a home in Caledonia,
MI on July 17, 2015 by AMP Security (AMP), an authorized dealer of Guardian
Protection. AMP is a separate and distinct company from Guardian. Guardian does
not control any day-to-day business activities or any internal policies or
procedures of AMP, including security evaluations, sales processes,
installation practices or any other aspects of AMP’s business. Our customer
signed an Authorized Dealer Monitoring and Repair Agreement with a term of 60
months, and in exchange for the monitoring commitment, out customer received a
discounted installation of a security system from AMP.
Our
customer’s wife first contacted Guardian about moving from Caledonia, MI to Grand
Rapid, MI on October 17, 2018, at which time there were approximately 21 months
remaining on the term of the original agreement. She was provided with two quotes for a new
installation in Grand Rapids, one with no extension of their current monitoring
term and one that provided discounts if they extended their 21-month term back
to 60 months. There were several calls
to Guardian discussing the options. Our
customer made the decision to receive a discounted installation for $175.00 in exchange
for signing a new 60-month monitoring term on November 2, 2018, during a call
to Guardian with their son-in-law on speakerphone. Please
note that due to the nature of Guardian’s business (life safety and frequent
interaction with law enforcement and other local authorities) Guardian records
all customer telephone calls and interactions. Guardian was able to access the call even though it was three years
ago. The quotes were discussed again and
our customer’s son-in-law repeated the terms of the discounted installation
including that it was a 5-year deal. An electronic Addendum (attached) memorializing
the terms of the installation in Grand Rapids was emailed to our customer at [email protected], the primary email address on his
account for the duration of his patronage, and reviewed and signed during the
phone call on November 18, 2022.
Two
discounted installations have been performed with a total monitoring commitment
of 99 months by our customer. It is over
the course of monitoring commitments that Guardian recoups the discounts
provided at the time of sale and installation. To date, our customer has 18 unpaid months remaining on their current
monitoring term and Guardian has not fully recouped its investment. Guardian understands our customer is not in a
position to relocate their system and service again, nor are they eligible for
any other termination programs. Guardian
was able to make contact with our customer’s family and offered to accept a
discounted settlement of $270.12. The
family is considering the offer.
Thank you
for informing Guardian of this matter and providing an opportunity to work with
our customer to resolve the issue. Should you have any questions, please
contact Guardian directly at (800) 776-8328.
Sincerely,
Agency
Complaint Response TeamCustomer Answer
Date: 11/30/2022
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Better Business Bureau:
We have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********* and find that this resolution is satisfactory to us.
The agent at the business involved (Deb V) has also stated that she will work with the credit bureaus to reverse any damage that this case may have caused to our credit ratings.
Regards,
******* *** ***** *******
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