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Pool Contractors

Holland Pools and Spas, LLC

Complaints

Customer Complaints Summary

  • 7 total complaints in the last 3 years.
  • 0 complaints closed in the last 12 months.

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  • Initial Complaint

    Date:03/19/2024

    Type:Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    ResolvedMore info

    Complaint statuses

    Resolved:
    The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
    Unresolved:
    The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
    Answered:
    The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
    Unanswered:
    The business failed to respond to the dispute.
    Unpursuable:
    BBB is unable to locate the business.
    Holland built our pool! We are in our seventies and the process was terrible! They did a terrible job and especially the pebble tech interior. It looks terrible. They came out with a Pebble tech rep and said they would get back to us. That has been about six months. I had another company look at redoing it. They said it was a terrible job!

    Business Response

    Date: 03/22/2024

    Holland Pools continues to work towards an amicable solution regarding the interior finish. We are setting up another meeting with the Interior Finish Manufacturer Rep for next week to review the finish. 

     

    Customer Answer

    Date: 04/01/2024

    Please do not close this complaint. 
    Holland pool never got back in touch with me after they told you they were working to resolve this. They actually lied to you 

    Customer Answer

    Date: 04/03/2024

    Please do not close this complaint. 
    Holland pool never got back in touch with me after they told you they were working to resolve this. They actually lied to you 

    Business Response

    Date: 04/03/2024

    This is an untrue statement. Holland has resolved the lighting issue and we have set a meeting with the homeowner and the Interior Finish Manufacturer for 04/04/2024. 

    Customer Answer

    Date: 04/03/2024

    They did repair the lighting issue but until I made another complaint two days ago they had not called me back to resolve the issue of the interior now they do have an appointment to come out tomorrow. After I complained two days ago they text me the next morning and made an appointment come out to my house

    Customer Answer

    Date: 04/03/2024

     
    Complaint: 21455568

    I am rejecting this response because:
    They did repair the lighting issue but until I made another complaint two days ago they had not called me back to resolve the issue of the interior now they do have an appointment to come out tomorrow. After I complained two days ago they text me the next morning and made an appointment come out to my house
    Sincerely,

    ***********************

    Business Response

    Date: 04/12/2024

    Responding to keep the complaint open. We are still working to resolve the issue. 

    Business Response

    Date: 04/23/2024

    Holland Pools drained the pool yesterday

    Today we acid washed the interior finish and lightly polished the finish to remove the scale  and to improve the appearance of the interior finish.

    We will re-fill the pool and maintain the Pool for a week before turning the maintenance back over to the homeowner. 

    Customer Answer

    Date: 05/03/2024

    They are working to resolve issue!

    still an open issue!

    Customer Answer

    Date: 05/06/2024

    They drained my pool so it was out of service two weeks.  They sent some one to acid wash the pebble tech.  It looks No better!

    Customer Answer

    Date: 05/06/2024

    They drained my pool so it was out of service two weeks.  They sent some one to acid wash the pebble tech.  It looks No better!

    Business Response

    Date: 05/20/2024

    Holland Pools emailed a resolution to ******************** on 05/17/2024 and are awaiting his reply. 

    Customer Answer

    Date: 05/30/2024

    Holland Pools settled with me and therefore please close the complaint!

    Customer Answer

    Date: 05/30/2024

    Holland Pools settled with me and therefore please close the complaint!
  • Initial Complaint

    Date:12/01/2023

    Type:Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    AnsweredMore info

    Complaint statuses

    Resolved:
    The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
    Unresolved:
    The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
    Answered:
    The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
    Unanswered:
    The business failed to respond to the dispute.
    Unpursuable:
    BBB is unable to locate the business.
    I noticed overtime my pool was losing water. Seems faster than a normal evaporation. But I never had a pool leak on my life so I thought it was just evaporation so I kept filling the pool back up all the time on a regular basis.Then overtime seem to be getting g worse and I called Holland pools to let them know the situation. When speaking to the service department she stated that there was a patch done on my pool around the skimmer area after the pool was built. So I said can u come out and check and fix the issue. She said that they don't come out for leak detection that I will have to call a third party company for that. And she recommended a leak company and gave me a phone number to call for them to come do a test. There was a fee for the to come out for $389. I asked the service lady at Holland if she would cover the cost of the leak test because I had the p*** a few years and should not be leaking. She stated if the pool leak company comes out and finds that it was Holland fault they would reimburse for cost of leak test and fix issue. So I told her ok I will call and schedule appointment and let Holland know. So when the pool leak company came out they found that it was a leak at the skimmer again and they said it looks like the patch that was put on again from Holland pools failed. And was one of the leaks that was in the pool and they also found a main drain leak at the bottom of the pool. I paid the bill of $389 for them to do a temporary patch and I called Holland pools immediately for them to know the situation. A person named ******* calls me about the situation and flat out told me they are not going to fix issue and not covering it. It made me upset and started throwing it back at me. After talking again about situation he calmed down and then he said he will probably reimburse me for pool leak and send someone out to patch everything. He was going to call in morning and never heard back. I've been calling and texting and no response.

    Business Response

    Date: 12/04/2023

    The Holland Pools Warranty is One Year from the closing date which was 03/23/2020. This pool is over 3 years old and out of warranty.

    Even though this pool is out of warranty, we will schedule ************** to come out and evaluate the skimmer area. The grout in the pool tile and skimmer area has to be maintained, similarly like the tile in a bathroom shower. Over time the grout will disintegrate and need to be repaired. We will be contacting ********************** to let him know when we can get him on the schedule.

  • Initial Complaint

    Date:11/09/2023

    Type:Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    ResolvedMore info

    Complaint statuses

    Resolved:
    The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
    Unresolved:
    The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
    Answered:
    The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
    Unanswered:
    The business failed to respond to the dispute.
    Unpursuable:
    BBB is unable to locate the business.
    -Return jet bubbling, may be a leak, have requested leak detection be done. Holland Pools service department has come out to only look at pump and tell me there are no leaks, without performing a proper leak detection. I performed my own water loss test and found water level lower in 24 hours by 3/4 inch, when I mentioned my findings to Richard M******* his response was ‘I’m not worried about it’.
    -Pavers are constantly sinking, almost on a monthly basis. They have been out a few times to “fix” but a few weeks later pavers sink again. This is happening around the auto fill/drain and coping/deck.
    -When “repairing” sinking pavers, they broke concrete off and didn’t concrete back between coping and grass.
    -Some pavers become lose. Our concern is that this may be dangerous around coping as someone can fall into pool and drown.
    -They left big gaps (1/2in or more) between pavers. Shoddy work, not flush at all.
    -Waterfall is not working as advertised and sold to us - not shooting water out evenly, there is a big dip/dent on water that wasn’t there when first installed. I was told by Richard M****** on one of his service calls out to my house to only run waterfall at low RPMs so I don’t see the dent. I was sold and chose to add a waterfall that would run at different RPMs for the aesthetics. Aesthetics of waterfall are no longer there. Richard also told me I should’ve spent $40k more on a waterfall if I wanted it to work correctly.
    -Salt system has shut off on its own a few times. They come look at it, turn it back on and do nothing else about it.

    Every time I contact Holland Pools and they come out, they act as if they’re doing me a favor and are arrogant. They have lied that they get mistreated by me when they come out to service anytime I voice my concerns. Basically they don’t allow me to voice any concerns and have tried to silence me. They have threatened not to come back to fix anything.

    Business Response

    Date: 11/20/2023

    We are very sorry that you have had this experience and we are working to rectify. This is a follow up to note what has already happened and what still needs to take place. 

    The Leak Detection was performed by a third party company with no affiliation with Holland Pools. Their results found no leaks and that the Air bubbles in the pipes were likely from the pool pump being run at the lower speed. 

    The General Manager met with the Homeowners on site 11/16/23 to evaluate the concerns with the paver repairs and the sheer descent. The sheer descent was evaluated and does perform as it should at the recommended Gallons per minute. However since this does not meet the expectation of the Homeowner, Holland Pools will be refunding the cost of the sheer descent as a good faith gesture.   

    For the upcoming scheduled paver repairs the General Manager will be on site to supervise to ensure that the Homeowners are pleased with the final result.

     

    Customer Answer

    Date: 12/07/2023

    This matter has been resolved. Thank you. 

    Customer Answer

    Date: 12/12/2023

    This matter has been resolved. Thank you. 
  • Initial Complaint

    Date:12/16/2022

    Type:Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    AnsweredMore info

    Complaint statuses

    Resolved:
    The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
    Unresolved:
    The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
    Answered:
    The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
    Unanswered:
    The business failed to respond to the dispute.
    Unpursuable:
    BBB is unable to locate the business.
    I had a pool installed by Holland Pool with a one year warranty; a bumper to bumper warranty on the pool as they stated. Since the start of the building process I had nothing but issues with the company. First they installed the pool equipment in the back of the house not the side . The approved designed had the equipment on the side of the house.

    Then when the pool was completed, i informed them that the plaster/wet edge was thin on some spots. I also notice i was losing an inch to 2 inches of water throughout the week. I conducted the bucket test and i informed them that there is something wrong. I still have to fill my pool every week to this day.

    My list of issues were either brought to their attention through email, phone conversation or text.
    I spoke to the warranty department or a site manager about my issues and i was always told that they would take care of it, it is under warranty.

    My list of issues are:
    **Numerous crack tiles in the interior of the pool was notice during install
    **Tiles falling off the interior wall of the pool
    **Exposed concrete from tiles falling off and water getting behind the tiles.
    **Losing water every week; needing to fill the pool with water every week, even during the winter months (filling pool an inch to 2 inch every week)
    **Wetedge plaster is thin and has exposed concrete
    **Equipment is installed at the wrong location
    **Equipment is loose and not secure to the wall
    **
    Concrete patio is lifting and was told it would be fixed under warranty
    I have left Numerous voice mails and emails. Every time i do speak with someone, i am told that they are discussing my issues and they will call me back or my mangers had i meeting about you issues ,we will call you back.

    The only way i can speak with a live person is by using different phones that are not associated with me. I have yet, been able to to reach them with my phone or my wife phone.

    I want my pool to be fixed as promises by the company and want to be compensated.

    Business Response

    Date: 12/28/2022

    The Holland Pools Construction Manager met with the Owner on 12/21/22 at their home to review and inspect the pool. Arrangements were made with the Owner that repairs would be scheduled in January 2023.

    Customer Answer

    Date: 01/08/2023

    (The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)

    The repair recommendations is not going to fix the poor workmanship of the tile installation. I want all the tiles to be removed and all the thinset ground down or removed. I also want new thinset installed properly with new upgraded tiles. My family has not been able to enjoy our pool due to the fear in causing further damage or issues to the pool. This repair should of been handle immediately and i have contacted them several times.



    Every time i have spoken to someone, i have been told that they will show up or call me to discuss the issue but they never do. This is an ongoing issue and has cost me in this year, approximately $6000, in water bills and time off of work.



    There is also a section in my plaster/ pebbletec where there is exposed concrete and i have a section of my deck where the concrete is lifting.



    I do not consider this matter to be resolved or closed by any means.


    Business Response

    Date: 03/20/2023

    BBB Complaint Case# ******** (********************************) I missed the window to reply for this Owner: Holland is scheduling Soil Testing by an independent Engineering Firm to evaluate what is causing this issue and how best to resolve the problems. This is still an open work in progress. Thank you!

    Sent from ********* *********** **************************

  • Initial Complaint

    Date:12/02/2022

    Type:Product Issues
    Status:
    AnsweredMore info

    Complaint statuses

    Resolved:
    The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
    Unresolved:
    The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
    Answered:
    The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
    Unanswered:
    The business failed to respond to the dispute.
    Unpursuable:
    BBB is unable to locate the business.
    Engaged in contract to have a new swimming pool installed at our home. The installation process was completed in May. There were some issues with the pebble tech finish in that there were two spots that did not have finish on them. Holland pools. Send a technician back, who advised us that it was just that the area on our bench was not exposed. He proceeded to scrub with a wire brush which removed a portion of the finish. This was in June. I have sent the tech back twice to fix it, it continues to be a different much lighter shade of blue . We have had to drain our pool twice, causing us to incur the cost of refilling our pool, as well as re-balance all the chemicals. Each time they drained the water blew the level off the bench to make the repairs. . We have had to drain our pool twice causing us to incur the cost of refilling our pool, as well as re-balance all the chemicals each time they drained the water below the level of the bench to make the repairs. We have contacted Holland pools multiple times. And they just continue to tell us that someone will be in touch. I have all the emails as documentation. They have received all of their money for the installation. This finish issue needs fixed or we deserve a partial refund as this looks terrible. It looks like someone placed a hot iron on a piece of clothing, but it is in our pool, which is a very dark finish and the damage section is a light shade of blue.

    Business Response

    Date: 12/05/2022

    Yes the ***************** is correct about the issue, November 4 ***************************************** writing to let the finish cure 30 to 50 days which is today 12/4/2022. We will site visit this week, to ***** the failure and advise what will be corrected and when, with water reimbursement included. This will be corrected as stated at the last attempt. Holland Pools has not left the ***** out in the cold and as we always do the right thing.

    Customer Answer

    Date: 12/11/2022

    (The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
    First, never were we asked to give it ***** days. The last correspondence received from them is that they were discussing the issue in a meeting on November 15th and nothing again until December 8th after I filled this complaint. I have all the e mail correspondences. I would prefer this case not close until we determine if they fix it this time. They are coming tomorrow and are again going to drain and attempt repair. They may replace finish on entire bench. I voiced my concern that the entire bench may then not match the rest of the pool. I have been advised that they gave my message to *****. Please keep this open until we confirm it is repaired correctly.

    Business Response

    Date: 12/28/2022

    The Sunshelf interior finish was repaired around 12/14/22 and we reached out to the Owner on 12/15/22 to see if they were happy with the repair. Per the email from the Owner "Thank you very much. It definitely looks a lot better than before but it is a bit darker than the rest of the finish so because it will darken over the next month, I would like to take the next 30 to 50 days as was indicated in the BBB review reply below to see how dark it gets. As long as it stays as it is, it still doesn't quite match but it's acceptable. Thank you so much!"
  • Initial Complaint

    Date:08/22/2022

    Type:Product Issues
    Status:
    AnsweredMore info

    Complaint statuses

    Resolved:
    The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
    Unresolved:
    The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
    Answered:
    The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
    Unanswered:
    The business failed to respond to the dispute.
    Unpursuable:
    BBB is unable to locate the business.
    Just finished building with Holland Pools and Spas, LLC. When Holland Pools and Spas submitted the permit for my pool to the county they selected that my home was on city sewer after being given the survey where it's clearly marked as being on septic. Because of their error the Health Department for the county was not alerted to review the pool proposal. Would the permit been submitted correctly and the Health Department altered, this permit would have been denied and the pool not built. I have a copy of the permit showing the error and an email from the Health Department explaining this as well. After providing all this information to Holland Pools they refuse to take responsibility.
    Because error on their permit application the application was approved. Holland Pools proceed with the build and ripped out my septic's leech field. They called and stated it was my fault and to call them after the leach field was fixed. After multiple calls to Holland Pools upper magnet went unanswered, I paid the $15,000 myself to repair the leach field. I requested the pool contract be terminated and they declined. Now after being forced to finishing building I submitted all the paperwork from the county showing the responsibility falls on Holland Pools they continue to ignore me. They stated they have more money than me and can drag this out in court.
    It's extremely disheartening that a company like this operates in such a manner. They are rude and bullies. All they care about is getting their money and take no responsibility for their actions. I am not going to be bullied or silenced and will continue to push to hold this horrible organization accountable

    Business Response

    Date: 11/16/2022

    Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2022/09/07) */
    Holland Pools policy is that the Homeowner is to have the septic tank and drain field located and flagged on the property before construction and to provide a current survey showing the exact location of the septic and drain field for permitting. The Homeowner signed a contract and a septic disclaimer agreeing to these terms.
    The survey that was provided to Holland Pools from the Homeowner showed that the septic tank and drain field were located in the Front Yard and the backyard was clear of any obstacles. In answer to the permit accusation, yes the permit tech inadvertently clicked sewer instead of septic, however the survey that was submitted for permit did have the septic location information on it and even if it had been routed to the Health Department for review they would have approved the permit because the survey showed the septic and drain field in the front yard and nothing in the rear of the home where the pool was located to be built.

    The Excavation crew stopped digging as soon as they saw that there was a problem and the Homeowner was notified. The Homeowner did not inform Holland Pools that there was a Secondary Drain Field that was not listed on the survey. The Homeowner demanded that Holland Pools pay for the repairs even though he had signed the contract and septic disclaimer relieving Holland Pools of the liability.
    The Holland Pools Construction Manager asked the Homeowner if he wished to proceed with the Pool Construction after the necessary repairs to the drain field were made and the Homeowner confirmed via email that he wanted to complete the pool.
    Holland Pools would never force anyone who is unhappy to finish construction, as we rely on word of mouth referrals and truly want to see our Customers Happy with their Pools.
    Sadly, there are quite a bit of untruths listed by the Homeowner in their complaint.
    We are also unable to complete the Final Inspection on the pool, until the Homeowner installs the sod per county requirements.


    Consumer Response /* (3000, 7, 2022/09/16) */
    (The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
    I am glad to see the continued pattern of Holland Pools failing to take responsibility for their actions is consistent both in their BBB complaints, Google reviews and this current issue. I provided documentation from the Health Department confirming the exact opposite of what they are saying. Would they have submitted the permit correctly; the application would have been denied. The email provided in the initial complaint from the Health Department clearly states this. In addition, a survey showing the drain field in the backyard was provided as well.

    How can a company say, "Yes we submitted the permit incorrectly." The systems in places that the country has in to prevent this from happening were bi passed because we in correctly submitted the permit, but we are not responsible. This just gives you a small glimpse into how this organization operates and why, if they do not choose to rectify this situation, they will be sued.


    Business Response /* (4000, 9, 2022/09/27) */
    The owner is now claiming to have provided a survey showing the drainfield in the back yard and that is false. The owner provided the survey showing the septic and drainfield in the FRONT YARD and the Health Department confirmed that this would not have kept us from getting a pool permit. As stated the Owner Signed the Septic Tank Disclaimer taking responsibility for providing the correct information and having the system located prior to the start of construction.


    Consumer Response /* (4200, 12, 2022/10/05) */
    (The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
    The response Holland Pools provided is not only incorrect, it's a flat out lie. They are stating the Health Department confirmed something that is false. I have provided emails directly from the Health Department stating that the permit being incorrectly submitted is the reason the permit was approved. How can a company just make false claims in the response with no proof when in fact I provided written documentation from the Health Department stating the complete opposite?

    So a pool construction company can file a permit stating a house is on city sewer, get the permit based on incorrect information they submitted. Then rip a leach felid up. Refuse to take reasonability, refuse to communicate and refuse to allow me to cancel the contract.

    Where is the accountability in the process?

    Lastly, it seems like the DBPR (Department of Business & Professional Regulations) disagrees that a licensed professional can submit a permit with incorrect information and not be held responsible. It's a shame that Holland Pools is going to hang Tyler J**** B********** (the Holland Pools contractor that submitted the permit incorrectly) out to dry and he is going to end up taking the full weight of this issue. You can reference this at the DBPR (Department of Business & Professional Regulations) under case number ***********

    This just goes to show you that Holland Pools not only doesn't care about their customers, they also don't care about their employees...


    Business Response /* (4000, 14, 2022/10/17) */
    The property owner signed a contract assuming complete and sole responsibility for the location of the pool.



    Consumer Response /* (4200, 16, 2022/10/24) */
    (The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
    Cleary Holland Pools is trying to place blame on anyone but themselves. Currently we have Tyler J**** B********** (the Holland Pools contractor that submitted the permit incorrectly) under investigation with DBPR (Department of Business & Professional Regulations) under case number *********** Strangely, just like court will see it, DBPR also agrees that someone submitting an application with incorrect is a serious offense and places all lability on the contractor (as it should be). I am glad people will be able to read through the correspondence with Holland Pool so they can see what kind of company they truly are.

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