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This company posted a job offer on social media (Facebook/snapchat) stating it was for appointment setting. I was immediately contacted and then I was scheduled a call to interview and then rushed into speaking with a hiring manager who then also claimed he was an operations manager. I was told to find training that they would have to have me open a credit card that they would then reimburse upon completion of training. They had me and many others do this and sign a contract stating that we would be provided all necessary training including scheduled meetings, calls, etc, and that after 60 days the credit line would be paid off by the company. They also rushed me to sign a dispute waiver. However that contract also said we would be offered jobs after 30 days. I was rushed into opening an american express account and card and then paying an upfront fee of $6000 for the training/education (which is not up to par as to what they said). While they also stated that we would be making money as we went. Within the first 24 hours of “training” we were then told the actual job description, which was not at all appointment setting, but calling other people from a call list to hire them on as appointment setters. It's all a BAIT and SWITCH. They bait you with promise of high earnings and learning from the "best" and so you believe it's worth the $6,000, and then they switch from appointment setting to having you join them and get other people trapped. Their commission policy is the workers/people training get a 5% commission starting out. Given the sales they do are in amounts of $6,000, 5% is only $300. They said you can make $500-900 a week. And that's if TWO sales are made from your calls. Wildly low odd and they make promises that you can earn while you learn when they have safely made money off of you and got $6k. This call list they gave was definitely one that I probably was on at some point unfortunately and someone then reached out to me. It's all a complete lie. They have a whatsapp groupchat where they post all the numbers which aren't valid or people who aren't interested and keep everyone who is interested on a spreadsheet. They are diving into people's fear and desperation to earn money (BAITING) and then switching things up to where you're just their customer and a $6,000 sale trying to do everything just to make $6,000 back. They said the part time job is 12-15 hours a week and yet they have us call 50 people twice a day on average and then also leave 50 emails and 50 texts. This work takes longer than the said time. All lies. STAY AWAY from APPOINTMENT SETTING. CONNOR BUTLER Is a CRIMINAL. They also lied about a website stating it was used to report any sort of issues we had with the company. In reality, it was what they charged $6,000 to the credit card through. The website/their partner is Fanbasis.com. Within my first day of training we were instructed to call 50 people twice a day, send 50 emails, and 50 text messages, as well as participate in the daily posted team meetings and calls. They use slack for communication and the leads they post are for getting other appointment setters, not clients. A lie. I got wrapped up in this on May 30th, and I wasn't even added to the slack channel until June 13th. They were not holding up to their side of the contract while also telling us that we had to hit our minimums and watch those videos on time. Once I pointed this out to several “coaches” the rules changed. Suddenly the videos were posted in the mornings, then they were supposedly actually posted later in the day, and then it changed to that the videos would be posted after 24 hours. Simply, they do not do their "job" and post things timely on slack. After days of being lied to I filed a support request with fanbasis to attempt to get a refund, and then I filed a dispute with American Express, the credit card through which the $6,000 was charged. THEY ASK FOR $6,000 up front. The dispute is still in progress and open so I have not received a refund from AMex yet. Everything has been handled over text message and fake phone numbers. I'm worried that these supposed managers will argue and harass me via text and repeated calls if american express can secure me the refund, and then eventually their supposed legal team might even send me repeated emails with threats. Far worse than that, they might get access to my identity information (SSN) through american express (I dont know what they are capable of) or show up at my current address with just the information of my name and phone number. Most employees involved only provide their first names. They asked for no credentials or paperwork other than an address, phone number, and credit score (to ensure they could open a card for that much money) but I'm weary of what other information they have of me. The business has no physical mailing address. I have found many other people who have gotten caught up in this scam via their slack channel and “lead list” of phone numbers. The company has operated under several different names over the last 3 years to avoid people catching on to their scheme (like VALYOU MEDIA LLC, now they go by Appointment Setting Legacy Appointments and Timeless Capital LLC). I know that Yazan Younis, Nikola Savic, Caleb, Erick, Connor Butler (the CEO), Omar Rein, who has gone by Omar Reynoso as well, Jacob Hojara, Lorenzo Boffa, Bradley Geel, Sasha Nichols, and Tina Helzer are involved. Many other people are involved in this whole scam.