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    Business ProfileforJohn Ray and Sons Inc

    Propane

    At-a-glance

    Customer Reviews

    1.5/5stars

    Average of 2 Customer Reviews

    Customer Complaints

    8 complaints closed in last 3 years

    3 complaints closed in last 12 months

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    Business Details

    Location of This Business
    2900 6th Ave, Troy, NY 12180-1317
    BBB File Opened:
    2/19/2008
    Business Management
    • Ms. Nancy Rapp, Customer Service Supervisor
    Contact Information

    Customer Contact

    • Ms. Nancy Rapp, Customer Service Supervisor
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    Customer Complaints

    8 Customer Complaints

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    Most Recent Customer Complaint

    01/19/2024

    Complaint Type:
    Service or Repair Issues
    Status:
    Resolved
    I signed a contract with John Ray & Sons after purchasing our home in June of 2023. I immediately requested for a boiler tune-up for cleaning and any recommendations for preventative maintenance or repair. After the boiler tune-up, we were left with no documentation on work performed during the visit, and a call to customer service only yielded minimal service notes stating it was serviced. Fast forward to December 30th 2023, I had black smoke coming from my chimney, 250 ppm CO in the house and a strong smell of fuel oil throughout. While waiting for John Ray to respond, I opened my boiler to find tremendous build up of black soot throughout the entire unit. Once the technician arrived and cleaned the boiler, he stated that the there was “no way this unit was cleaned” during the boiler tune up and that soot wouldn’t have accumulated that much in 2 months of use. After the cleaning was complete, the boiler was turned back on and heat was restored to the house. With thorough ventilation, it was clear that the smell of fuel oil and smoke would not clear the residence, with 5 ppm of VOC’s measured in the main living space. We checked into a hotel, and had fire restoration begin running HEPA fans and air scrubbers in the residence. The following day, I reached out to John Ray about the persistent odor and VOC’s present, with another technician to respond. The technician stated that the odor was persisting because the technician that came out the day of the incident installed the wrong nozzle off the van and that it was not operating correctly, and that the soot buildup was not from a lack of cleaning during the boiler tune-up, but a defective nozzle received by John Ray and installed on my boiler. My family spent 5 days in a hotel while Fire Restoration performed cleaning, air purification and ozone treatment to create a habitable living environment for my family to return home. When following up with John Ray, they refuse to cover our displacement and fire restoration.
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    Most Recent Customer Review

    Marisa R

    1 star

    01/21/2024

    I am on day 10 of no working heat in my home bc John Ray and Sons refused to fill my oil tank bc the tech saw a rust spot and tiny leak. I was told that a sales person would call me that day and never did. I packed up my 3 kids and we stayed elsewhere, I called at 7am the next day and a sales person agreed to meet me at my house. After he gave me a quote of $4,000 for a new oil tank I said no thank you, I’ll buy one at **** ***** for 1k. He gave me Matt, the service managers number ask suggested I call and ask about a temporary barrel for oil until I got the new tank. Matt was rude and condescending, told me I should apply for HEAP and refused me a temp barrel bc “how does he know I’ll actually get a new tank”. I told him I felt I was being punished for not buying from them and he finally agreed to supply a barrel if I got as signed contract from whoever was installing it. At the time I didn’t know who was so I again stayed somewhere else. Next day bought an oil tank and the following day it was installed (by professionals) I called John Ray for an oil delivery and they said one of their techs had to come out to inspect since they didn’t install it but couldn’t until the next day. Same kid comes that refused to give me oil initially and inspects and puts in some oil. About an hour later my furnace shuts down again. I call them and Matt tells me he will not send anyone back bc the roads were too bad and I’d have to wait until the next day. Next day same kid and his supervisor come (turns out he was an apprentice) tell me nothing is wrong with my furnace and there must be a frozen pipe in the system. Well after 6 days of no heat I wasn’t surprised!!! They tell me they don’t know where it is and I should call a plumber. They leave with me with no heat, no solutions, and i haven’t heard from them since. The plumber can’t find my frozen pipe and I’m living with space heaters and luckily a propane fireplace. It’s been an absolute nightmare! Worst company!!!!

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