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Customer Complaints Summary
- 19 total complaints in the last 3 years.
- 9 complaints closed in the last 12 months.
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Initial Complaint
Date:06/23/2025
Type:Order IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
My husband ***** and I attended a vacation seminar in *******, **, where Christie Lodge was presented as an affordable and flexible vacation option. We were assured we could use it yearly, trade through ***, or even sell it later. Based on these assurances, we purchased the timeshare, unaware that it would essentially be a permanent commitment or that our children would inherit this burden.Over the years, financial and health challenges have made it impossible for us to continue with this ownership. A job transfer to ****** added financial strain, and though we kept up with payments, rising fees have become unmanageable. Additionally, both ***** and I experienced significant health issues from the high altitude, making it impractical for us to continue using the timeshare.When we sought to exit, we were told Christie Lodge would not take it back, leaving us trapped in an agreement that no longer fits our needs. Given our health issues and inability to travel, maintaining this timeshare is now an undue hardship.I am formally requesting the termination of our contract. Our circumstances have changed, and it is no longer feasible for us to continue with this financial and physical burden.Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.Sincerely,***** & ****** ****Business Response
Date: 07/01/2025
Thank you for your inquiry into the Christie Lodge timeshare and your title of ownership. We are aware of your purchase process and alleged feelings of being misled originating from 1984, some 41 years ago. Many
years have passed and trying to explain that an ****************** typically does not take title to property but manages the property so that each owner has the same rights and benefits to use the
property in good standing. The ****************** does not have a real estate license to resell the property, therefore, there was not a deed back option available when you asked years ago. Even now the
Association does not take on the burden of the owners wishing to exit or relinquish their ownership as this is real property that must be sold and transferred without a lien or an encumbrance of maintenance
fees. Previous correspondence states that the maintenance fees would need to be paid before the Association would take the property back making the other owners whole through this process. Understandable,
this is not the best situation for you as you are not using the property and do not feel it is fair to pay for something you didnt use. Your obligations of ownership were listed at the time of purchase stating the water, trash, sewer, electricity, property taxes and upkeep of the property are all the owners obligations regardless of use or nonuse. Of course, your life circumstances do impact your financial status and capabilities to pay but it
still does not negate that the onus is on the owners to pay the dues and sell the property. The Association has limited options available as it is not a business that can resell the property. There are no
other remedies available to seek against the company you originally purchased from as they have been out of business since 1986.Initial Complaint
Date:06/06/2025
Type:Order IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
We are writing to file a complaint against Christie Lodge Management due to severe issues arising from their lack of communication, unresponsiveness and the inability to resolve on ongoing matter related to our timeshare ownership. This situation has caused us significant stress, frustration and unnecessary delays in the transfer of our timeshare ownership. In February of 2024, we were offered two options in an email from ***** ******* ************************************* regarding the transfer of our ownership; a Pay It Forward program $3210.00 or us listing the property, with Christie Lodge assisting in the paperwork/title transfer at a cost of $13.00 to us and $75 for the buyer. We contracted with *************** Title and paid a significant fee for them to assist us with the ownership transfer to Vacation Experts. After over a year and two attempts, National Resort Title closed their file due to Christie Lodge being totally uncooperative in the transfer process. At this point in time, we still own the timeshare and we have had to pay additional monies to a Marketing Group/Realtor to sell the property. Bottomline, Christie Lodge has been uncooperative, non-communicative and needlessly prolonged what could have been a simple ownership transfer.Customer Answer
Date: 06/20/2025
from: Mail Service <************************************> via ********************************
reply-to: Mail Service <************************************>
to: "*************************************************************************" <*************************************************************************>
date: Jun 20, 2025, 9:44 AM
subject: Complaint ID ********I made an error when I filed the above complaint. I request the complaint be posted as a formal complaint, not just for information only. I am requesting the resolution be a complete termination of the timeshare ownership contract.
*** & ****** ******
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************************************Business Response
Date: 06/20/2025
Christie Lodge has not had any contact with your third-party company (*************** Title) which you paid upfront fees to help you sell. We did respond to your emails communicating that Christie Lodge has not had contact with your third-party you contracted with. Please refer to the BBB timeshare scams and how to prepare when trying to list or sell your property as they have tools and scams to watch out for. Typically, if you pay upfront fees to sell your timeshare you should request the funds be put into an escrow account in your name(s) and once they find a buyer they escrow funds are dispersed according to the closing instructions. You stated the company closed your file based on the lack of communication from Christie Lodge. We do need the buyer's information in order to send them a from which needs to be notarized and filled out by said buyer(s) This is the same process we completed for you when adding a spouse to the title in 2005. The Association has governing documents which all third party and owners need to comply with when transferring real property. If a buyer was submitted to us, Christie Lodge would have sent the necessary information to help process the transfer. The Association previously sent the exit options to you in April 2025 and February 2024. You have an exit option available and would be processed quickly through the Association. Continuing to pay companies upfront fees does not guarantee a positive result. If you have any questions, we are here to help.Initial Complaint
Date:06/02/2025
Type:Order IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
Dear Better Business Bureau,I am reaching out to seek your assistance in mediating a long-standing and deeply frustrating issue with Highlands at Christie Lodge/Christie Lodge regarding our timeshare contract (#*****). Despite my repeated attempts to resolve this matter directly with the company, I have received no response, leaving me with no choice but to escalate the situation.From the start, our experience with this timeshare has been disappointing. Availability has consistently been a challenge, making it nearly impossible to plan vacations around our schedules. Promised free weeks have proven entirely inaccessible, and the program has failed to deliver the value advertised during the initial purchase. When availability is secured, hidden costs, like the $250 service fee for a rare trip to ******, have compounded our frustration and added unforeseen financial strain.COVID closures worsened the situation when we lost points for several units reserved for family members and received no compensation. Over the last six years, we have been unable to use the timeshare at all, yet the financial burden has continued to grow. This has placed undue strain on my familys finances and well-being, diverting resources we could have used for our childrens futures and causing stress in our marriage.Given the repeated challenges and significant emotional and financial toll, I am asking for your help to mediate this matter and prompt a response from the company so we can reach a fair resolution.Thank you for your time and support. I hope to resolve this matter with your guidance.Sincerely,******* ************ ***Business Response
Date: 06/02/2025
Highlands Resorts at Christie Lodge is not the same as Christie Lodge Owner's Assocation, Inc. You purchased from a third-party Highlands Resorts and in doing so automatically became part of the ******************* When you purchased your usage was not a floating week but rather a points product that utilized a third-party exchange company to use your property. If you are a floating week, you would have access to use at the Christie Lodge and booking directly with Christie Lodge there would be no inventory issues. Christie Lodge does not have access to the inventory you were requesting through this third party or have any governing rights to their inventory options or pricing, therefore cannot address your complaint accordingly. Christie Lodge can verify your ownership is of public record with Christie Lodge as your home resort. Once we receive official notification that your membership has been cancelled with the exchange company, you would then be a floating weeks owner able to use your vacations at the Christie Lodge. The exit options have been attached for your review. Thank you and looking forward to any questions you may have.Initial Complaint
Date:12/21/2024
Type:Order IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
21 years ago I filed bankrupcy it included Christie Lodge.I also hired a person to make this time share go ******** 21. Years later I get a letter stating I owe ****** to christie Lodge and if I sign the deed back over to them they will delete that amount.Firstly I have not communicated with Christie lodge in 21 years.I wrote back stating they have been renting my week at ******* per week for 21 years and so I'm saying ******* x 21 years = ****** Minus what I owe.Still Christie lodge owes me ****** dollars.I never got a letter until 3 days ago in the 21 years.I can play the same game .I also sent a copies of my letter to the ************************** office.Business Response
Date: 12/23/2024
Christie Lodge is not requesting you pay the monies. The communication you recently received was not a demand letter for a delinquent balance. When you filed Bankruptcy, the trustee was unable/didn't to sell the property to offset your debt. When this happens, the property gets abandoned, and the owner still holds title to the property in the county records. The Association is trying to clear the title and receive the property back with no monies asked. You would be deeding the property back to clear the title or the other route would be the Association foreclose on the property at a later date to acquire title. Foreclosure is a cost the Association is unable to incur at this time. The post-petition debt does still accumulate and must assess an account internally as you are still the public title holder. If you deed the property back, you would no longer own said property in the county of Eagle, and the fees would be assessed accordingly to the Association in our system of record.Initial Complaint
Date:10/29/2024
Type:Billing IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
The entire process of trying to cancel our timeshare has been nothing short of a nightmare. We approached Christie Lodge early this year with legitimate reasons for wanting to terminatepoor service and misleading information about costs and usage flexibility. Despite explaining our situation and proposing a reasonable resolution, we were met with a demand to pay an excessive fee of $4309 to exit the contract.The situation has since spiraled. We were hit with a bill for maintenance fees shortly after, even though we've clearly communicated our desire to end this agreement and were actively trying to work out a reasonable solution with them. Our account has since been sent to collections, further complicating the issue. Adding to our stress, the collections agency handling our case was in an area heavily affected by the recent hurricane, making it nearly impossible for us to get updates on our account status and having no way to know what's going on when we haven't heard from them ever since.Christie Lodge's unwillingness to address our concerns and their demands for fees without addressing the core issues feel like more than just poor customer service. We need this matter resolved swiftly and we're asking for the termination of our timeshare agreement with no further costs. It's time for Christie Lodge to step up, acknowledge the validity of our complaints, and put an end to this ordeal. We just want closure and a fair resolution.Business Response
Date: 10/31/2024
The Christie Lodge is an Owner's Association ran by elected Board of Directors that are voted by all the owners. The Association is not a corporation that makes a profit rather collects maintenance fees to operate the building. Those maintenance fees cover the water, trash, electricity, insurance, property taxes, payroll and general upkeep. When an owner does not pay those fees, the cost is passed onto the other owners. In all fairness, the requests you are making to exit your timeshare for nothing does not pass along a fairness or equitable aspect for all the owners. All current owners have the same exit options available, regardless of non-usage or life changes. Owner Associations are not able to acquire a real estate license in ********, therefore; reselling the property once taken back is not an option and then must be rented to make up for the loss of fees not received to keep costs in balance. With deepest respect to your lively hood and lifestyle changes, the Association still has governing processes to comply with accordingly.Initial Complaint
Date:10/25/2024
Type:Order IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
To Whom It May Concern,I am reaching out to file a complaint against Christie Resorts regarding the timeshare I signed with them. From the very beginning, I felt misled and pressured into a commitment I didnt fully understand.During the sales presentation, We made it clear that we were not interested in a timeshare, but the sales team was extremely persistent. They assured us the presentation would be short, but it ended up dragging on for hours. While they highlighted the supposed benefits of owning a timeshare, they quickly glossed over the crucial details, such as the high mortgage and maintenance fees, the interest rates, and the difficulty in booking vacations. I left without a clear understanding of what I was actually committing ***** addition, this timeshare has placed a significant financial strain on my family, especially in these challenging times. When we reached out to cancel the contract, we were informed that we would need to pay four years worth of fees amounting to $6,000. This financial burden has been even more difficult to manage since my father passed away. The stress of being stuck in this contract has only added to the challenges we are already facing.I feel taken advantage of and believe that Christie Resorts should be more transparent and honest with their customers. I am hoping that the ******************** can assist me in getting out of this contract and help relieve some of this financial strain.Thank you for your assistance.Sincerely,**** ****** (Son)****** ******Business Response
Date: 10/31/2024
Please note that the Association is operated by an elected Board of Directors by all the owners of said Association. The purchase was from an individual not the Association. Our records show that you are not listed on the title as your parents are the title holders. When your parents purchased, they purchased with an Association Condominium declaration along with rules and regulations. Being an owner of the Association, the rules are given to all owners for general understanding of how to navigate through the usage. The Association has guidelines to follow with any special requests. Please contact us directly.Initial Complaint
Date:10/10/2024
Type:Order IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I bought a timeshare with Christie Lodge in 1999. On the contract I signed it very clearly says I purchased "A timeshare interest consisting of an estate for years terminating on December 31, 2022." That seems so straight forward a young somewhat naive young man might of thought "why not"Well, a vote was held by owners on whether to extend the commitment of all owners for an additional 50 years. 50 years, of additional commitment based on a simple majority of owners. For me, it makes absolutely no sense. It has been a waste of money for the past 20 years and will only continue to be. This extension was not in my best interest, but according to the Owner's Association, an Association Bylaw gives them this power. If this sort of bait and switch is legal, it's certainly not ethical . My complaint is: I don't agree that the Owner's Association has the self imposed power through Association bylaws to amend or change that contract without my explicit consent. The period I was contracted for has expired and I as I have honored my contractual obligations, I expect the Christie Lodge to do the same.Business Response
Date: 10/11/2024
Hello ****
Thank you for your communication and the chance to discuss the Association as a whole. As noted, you are an owner of the Association by a deeded membership. The legal description does have a date listed. This date must be referred to your by laws for a definition of such date. The original by laws state that it would only terminate if there was "no" vote that occurred prior to December 31, 2022. There was a vote, as you mentioned in 2011 for all owners to participate. The annual meeting notice is sent **** each August if any amendments or changes are scheduled to happen at the annual meeting for that year. You are part of an Association that is governed by the by-laws, rules and regulations by being a deeded owner of public record.
This vote does not impact your ownership from the sense that you are still able to sell, transfer or convey your property accordingly to ******************** laws. In the past, the Assocation has sent you exit options available. If you would like them to be resent, we would be happy to do so.
Let us know if you have any questions unanswered.
Thank you!
Customer Answer
Date: 10/11/2024
Complaint: 22408941
I am rejecting this response because: I have additional questions. In your experience, are association bylaws that ***** wide ranging authority to extend ownership common. In other words, in your experience do many lodges such as the Christie Lodge have similar powers? Is this a common practice among Home Owner Associations of this type?
Regards,
**** ********Business Response
Date: 10/17/2024
Each Association has its own by laws and particular rulings when originally created. Each building has a "life span" based on materials used in the building. Therefore, typically each building has its own life span, and each Association would have a different vote on the continuation of such commercial and residential properties. The year of 2022 was 40 years from the date of the buildings being built. The original condominium documents, therefore, put a date on the deed to note a vote had to occur to continue the property based on an appraisal before the vote could occur. This appraisal happened in 2010 stating that the building's life span would be 2062 if no other structural changes happened. This is the reason it was extended to 2062 and not some other year. The answer is yes. Other Associations of such have terms of the life of the building written into their bylaws.
There was also a change in your bylaws this annual meeting in 2011 that CCIOA - Colorado Common Interest Ownership Act required any original by laws change any wording that governed 100% of the owners had to agree on any vote, must be changed in the bylaws to read 67% of the owner vote had to agree. This is in place to date that 67% of the ownership voted must agree to changes or amendments.
Customer Answer
Date: 10/19/2024
Complaint: 22408941
I am rejecting this response because: the practice is unethical. However, I also realize arguing about it, especially via the BBB is ridiculous. Please send any information on selling or optng out to the email address you have on file for me.
Regards,
**** ********Initial Complaint
Date:10/07/2024
Type:Product IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
I am filing a complaint against The H3237343732363338**32H H3230383136**31313238H for their poor communication and misleading sales tactics. During the sales process, we were pressured into buying a timeshare with false promises of increasing value and easy exchanges. They failed to disclose extra fees and maintenance costs, which have become unmanageable,especially after my wife**;s surgery. Our experience at the H33303032**3435303238H was disappointing due to the lack of amenities and increasing fees. Despite several attempts to resolve the issue,including written complaints and voicemails to *************** we**;ve received no response. We request the cancellation of our contract and a refund to alleviate the undue financial and emotional burden.Business Response
Date: 10/11/2024
The Christie Lodge Owners Association is not the company in which you purchased the property from. The Association is managed by an elected Board of Directors via annual meetings each year by owners of the Association, There are governing documents which state your maintenance fees are due and when they are due each year, which you signed for when you purchased. The maintenance fees over the years have increased, as property taxes, water, trash, sewer, electricity and more have increased. Overall, your fees have gone up with the cost of living over the years. It is with great concern that you have called, sent letters and no response. The records do not reflect any communication requests from you.
The Christie Lodge will send out via email the exit options for your review. You will receive an email with contact information to correspond.
Thank you for reaching out and letting us know your situation.
Initial Complaint
Date:11/21/2023
Type:Order IssuesStatus:AnsweredMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
Highlands at Christie Lodge is holding customers hostage with their unyielding timeshare rules while the joy of vacationing turns into a stressful nightmare. I lost interest in using our timeshare due to the ridiculous exchange limitations. Why should I restrict myself to just Colorado? We've found more enjoyable vacation alternatives closer to home that I can drive to when the kids are off school.
In 2017, desperate to rid ourselves of this burden, I tried to sell the timeshare weeks via sellmytimesharenow.com. I slashed the price from $10,000 for both weeks to $1,000 by 2019. No one was interested, but I’m unsurprised because I wouldn’t take this scam off someone else’s hands.
Their solution? They want me to pay five years of maintenance fees or try to sell it myself again. Are they serious? They've shown no interest in offering an agreeable solution. Instead, they're busy counting their profits as I face another maintenance fee bill. This effectively makes the exit process six years long.
If Highlands can't sell a timeshare in five years, they should consider exiting it. Maybe then, they'd understand the frustration of being unable to escape a contract that's become a financial drain.Business Response
Date: 12/13/2023
Christie Lodge Owners Assocation, a not-for-profit organization which is governed by a board of directors who are also owners of said association. The board is voted in by the owners of the association and is on a volunteer basis. You address your concerns to Highlands at Christie Lodge which was a 3rd party licensed sales company. It is not the same company whom you pay your maintenance fees to the Association, As with any Association, the maintenance fees cover, costs to operate the building, water, trash, sewer, property taxes, insurance etc. You are allotted to use one week per year, per week you own in the color season you purchased. There are other exchange companies you can become affiliated with in order to travel to other places in the world for a membership fee. This allows flexibility and not coming to Colorado each vacation.
If the Assocation does make a profit, the profit goes into a Capital Reserve account which pays for improvements based on the requirements of Colorado laws governing associations. It is not a money-making corporation. The Association is not required to take your deeded ownership back as the other owner's would be accepting your costs of the operations be passed onto all the other owners. The Association is aware of lifestyle changes and therefore has compromised with exit programs sent to you previously. This exit options allow the owner base to not have to absorb your portion and eventually the Association would have to find a 3rd party to resell the inventory.
Initial Complaint
Date:10/23/2023
Type:Order IssuesStatus:ResolvedMore info
Complaint statuses
- Resolved:
- The complainant verified the issue was resolved to their satisfaction.
- Unresolved:
- The business responded to the dispute but failed to make a good faith effort to resolve it.
- Answered:
- The business addressed the issues within the complaint, but the consumer either a) did not accept the response, OR b) did not notify BBB as to their satisfaction.
- Unanswered:
- The business failed to respond to the dispute.
- Unpursuable:
- BBB is unable to locate the business.
3 years ago following my husband's death, i received notice from Christie Lodge/Beaver Creek, CO that I owed timeshare dues. I had no awareness i was on the deed which apparently my late husband had added me some months before his death. I never saw the deed until I explored the legal/title history and found the filing. I also learned that the prior deed, where my husband had purchased the timeshare property from another party, was Invalid/Fraudulent because he had notarized the deed himself, which creates a Fraudulent deed. Thus the most recent deed adding me as Joint Owner was now invalid as the property had not been legally conveyed to Jess Forrest in the earlier deed. Therefore, legally I have no ownership in this timeshare property.
I hired an attorney (3 years ago) to handle this matter. There were multiple & repeated communications with Christie Lodge and myself, and Christie Lodge and my attorney. Christie Lodge and my attorney, did not come to an agreement. My attorney deeded the property back to Christie Lodge. He advised me I did not need to pay any bills from them as they were Only to contact my attorney. They violated this repeatedly and continued to send statements of dues that were due.
NOW Christie Lodge is threatening to send the bill to Collections, This is in violation of the Fair Cannot contact a debtor if the debtor has retained an attorney. They legally Cannot send the outstanding dues to Collection.
I do NOT own this property due to invalid legal conveyances. I also do not own this property because I have deeded it back to Christie Lodge.
Christie Lodge MUST ACKNOWLEDGE the fraudulent deed providing I do Not Own the property.
Christie Lodge MUST cease & desist contacting me in defiance of my attorney's stipulation. And cease Collections activity.
They MUST ACKNOWLEDGE I HAVE NO OWNERSHIP IN THIS TIMESHARE PROPERTY.
Suraleah michaelsBusiness Response
Date: 10/23/2023
The Christie Lodge did explain to the attorney at the time that a title company would need to fix your title as the Association does not regulate clear title. The attorney did not communicate you deeded your title to the Association nor copy the Assocation on such document. The rules and regulations of your ownership do govern your property with or without clear title. This still needs to be brought up with a title company versus the Association. You are still recognized as an owner of such property until you sell, transfer, or convey title to a viable buyer and subject to all rules and regulations.Customer Answer
Date: 10/23/2023
Complaint: 20763881
I am rejecting this response because: What you replied is completely untrue. Via email of Feb 25, 2021, my attorney sent you notice that he would be filing a quitclaim deed conveying my interest in Christie Lodge. He informed you that you needed to 'cease communication with my client regarding attempt to collect ay past due assessments, HOA dues or any other fees associated with this property. Unless I hear back from you with different instructions, I will be filing the deed within the next ten days.' So you see you were given the opportunity to contact him and you ignored it.That deed Was filed; the property was deeded back to Christie Lodge.
You cannot continue to say you did not receive it; since then, I have forwarded a copy of this letter to you a number of times, along with a copy of the supposed dues you imagine I owe.
You are in violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices because I have retained an attorney in this matter which. you well knew because you had repeated and multiple email and phone conversations with him - you are Not Allowed to bill me Nor are you allowed to contact me; you must contact my attorney.
I have sent a full letter to you via 2nd day Air, which should be arriving Wednesday.
You are in jeopardy of a lawsuit should you place this with a Collections Agency.
suraleah michaels
Regards,
Suraleah MichaelsBusiness Response
Date: 10/23/2023
If the Christie Lodge was in receipt of such email or deed it would have responded the policies at that time. You are still recognized as such title holder as the Christie Lodge would have had to accept such property in writing. Please note the correct mailing address, as we only receive mail from USPS/PO Box; unless you are sending via FEDX or UPS to the street address. Again, your issue is with receiving clear title and an appropriate representative to help clear your title. Deeding the property back to an Association does not constitute a fix of such title nor did the Association know of such deed. The conveyance is not accepted by the Association as both parties must agree and this was not the case.Customer Answer
Date: 10/24/2023
Complaint: 20763881
I am rejecting this response because:
THIS CONTINUES TO BE OUTRAGEOUS. I was NEVER informed you Only accept mail to your P.O. Box. But that is absurd because I just sent mail to your true address becuase FedEx and UPS will not deliver to a post office box!However, this information was EMAILED TO YOU, not mailed.
If a deed is not valid because the grantee does Not Accept it, then why is the Deed from Jess Forrest as sole owner, to suraleah michaels an Jess Forrest as joint tenants w/rights of survivorship ALSO NOT VALID - I NEVER ACCEPTED IT AND I NEVER EVEN KNEW IT EXISTED UNTIL I RECEIVED A DUES STATEMENT FROM YOU, FOLLOWING JESS FORREST'S DEATH.
YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. IF MY CONVEYANCE TO YOU IS INVALID THEN SO TOO IS JESS' CONVEYANCE TO ME.
BUT YOU CANNOT GET OUT OF ACKNOWLEDGING THAT YOU KNEW I HAD RETAINED AN ATTORNEY; I HAVE MANY EMAILS TO PROVE THIS COMMUNICATION. AND AS SUCH YOU ARE IN VIOLATION IF YOU SEND THIS TO A COLLECTIONS AGENCY, I HAVE A RIGHT TO USE UNDER THE ACT I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. AND I WILL DO SO.
YOU CANNOT SEND BILLS/STATEMENTS/ FOR ANYTHING WHILE I HAVE RETAINED AN ATTORNEY.
YOU ARE NOT UPHOLDING THE LAW, YOU ARE TRYING TO FIND WAYS AROUND IT.
I DO NOT OWN THIS PROPERTY. You are even saying co-owners are the Cepls (long dead) and Jess Forrest (deceased). WHERE DID YOU GET THE IDEA THE CEPLS ARE CO-OWNERS? In essence, you are saying, then, that one of the earlier deeds WAS INVALID! Otherwise this simply is not the case, Jess Forrest NEVER Co-owned with the Cepls. You are misstating the title.
I look forward to filing a lawsuit and whatever else is necessary. You are using untruthful tactics and refusing to acknowledge dozens of emails from the start of this.
Regards,
Suraleah MichaelsCustomer Answer
Date: 10/24/2023
I will gather my paperwork and attach attorney's letter to timeshare company and deed conveying my interest in this timeshare back to the timeshare. Timeshare Christie Lodge is asserting they never received attorney letter because they only accept mail at their post office box But the attorney letter was sent to them by Email. And they say the will not 'accept' the recorded deed sent to them, conveying my interest in the property back to them, so it is not valid. But then Jess Forrest's (former husbandI) conveying his sole interest to Joint Ownership as Tenants With Rights of Survivorship would them Also Not Be Valid because I never 'accepted' the deed, never saw it, and only learned about it when Christie Lodge sent me a statement for back dues, shortly after Jess Forrest's death. If all that is true, i certainly DO NOT OWN the property at all. They are getting muddled in their responses....Colorado law does not require 'acceptance' by the grantee for it to be valid, it is 'assumed'. ..i will send documents tomorrow or Thursday.
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Customer Answer
Date: 11/02/2023
the attorney DID communicate intent to transfer ownership to Christie Lodge unless he heard back from you by a certain stated date. If you are so intent on believing whatever the records show who last has title, then it is Christie Lodge who has current ownership. My attorney emailed this information to you and mailed it and I also periodically enclosed it Back to you with a copy of the statement dues.
You NOW LIST the Cepls and Jess Forrest as co-owners -so you ALREADY HAVE CHANGED THE OWNERSHIP YOURSELVES which you tell me cannot be done. THE Cepls NEVER HELD OWNERSHIP WITH JESS FORREST. There are two invalid deeds, you seemed to have acknowledged one is invalid but not the other - otherwise how did the Cepls suddenly appear as co-owners? You make all kinds of changes that you deem legal but tell me it is Illegal If I do it.
You cannot have it both ways.
I have now sent the attorney letter to Christie Lodge along with a long letter from me. I know you have received it because i sent it 3-day and it was Signed For. Please remember that you do not have the right to send this to Collections because I have an attorney. You would be in violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. You are not even allowed to send me any bills pertaining to the property, which you have continued during in violation. .
Strange that you tell me how clearly Christie Lodge stated that clearing the title was the owner's responsibility when my attorney informed me it was Yours, not mine.
It seems you will say anything that is in your favor.
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Customer Answer
Date: 11/02/2023
Better Business Bureau:
I have decided NOT to participate in Binding Arbitration to resolve my complaint with ID 20763881. I understand that because I have decided to not pursue arbitration that BBB will close my complaint.
Regards,
I do not believe this can be resolved without an attorney. The company, Christie Lodge, is a timeshare that has seen problems like this before and stubbornly refuses to acknowledge the Owner's rights.
Business Response
Date: 11/02/2023
The Christie Lodge is willing to honor the transfer from "Complainant" to the Christie Lodge to resolve her complaint. The Christie Lodge does not claim nor attest to practice as a title company. She will need to send an original death certificate to the Christie Lodge to remove the other title holder. This will be covered in more detail in a private email to the person filing the complaint.Customer Answer
Date: 11/04/2023
Better Business Bureau:
I have reviewed the response made by the business, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.
This has been ongoing for three years, I am glad it could finally get to a resolution whereby Christie Lodge has accepted my conveyance of the timeshare property interest in question, back to the Christie Lodge, so I hold no interest in this timeshare. (which I assert I Never did have any ownership).I am to send an original Death Certificate of J Forrest to the Christie Lodge (this was also done 3 years ago). I have given Christie Lodge the email address of my attorney, at their request and arranged with Christie Lodge where the Death Certificate to be mailed. (There were numerous prior communications between them so they actually do know who my attorney is.)
I thank you for your role in bringing this to closure.
Regards,
Suraleah Michaels
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