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Reason for Rating
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Factors that raised the rating for Fort Collins Muffler & Automotive include:
- Length of time business has been operating
- Complaint volume filed with BBB for business of this size
- Response to 1 complaint(s) filed against business
- Resolution of complaint(s) filed against business
Customer Complaints Summary Read complaint details
|Complaint Type||Total Closed Complaints|
|Problems with Product/Service||1|
|Total Closed Complaints||1|
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|Total Customer Reviews||0|
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Occupational/Industry License Database Colorado
1560 Broadway Ste 1350, Denver CO 80202
Type of Entity
Business ManagementMr. Brian Dwyer, President Mr. Evan Harding, Manager
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Alternate Business NamesFort Collins Muffler and Automotive J & M Distributing, INC
Industry TipsAuto Repair & Service
2001 S College Ave
Fort Collins, CO 80525 (970) 484-0866 Directions
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|Positive Review||5 points per review|
|Neutral Review||3 points per review|
|Negative Review||1 point per review|
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Problems with Product/Service
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Complaint: On 3/11 took our 05 ford f150 for repair which had problems w stalling occasionally. After paying $2500 and price gouging on parts ($140 vct solenoids at dealer vs $423 at fc muffler). Pick up truck 11/14 only have it stall out on way out town. Returned and kept till 11/17...I had call them always...finally tell me they put really expensive parts(cam phasers) that I didn't approve, and still doesn't run. A manager suggests building a new engine....wow...they already racked up $2500(paid) plus phasers, and now they said I need a new engine. Clearly they didn't have a clue what was wrong or how fix it. I panicked because these timing chain issues can ruin an engine if done wrong. Knowing how incompetent they were, I had my truck towed to a ford dealer for a diagnosis. It was going be $150 to diagnose but the truck now made a god-awful noise when they started it. A problem we never had before so the dealer was charging extra $550 to have mechanic diagnose problem and take apart engine that takes about 6 hours. They discovered the new vct solenoid was incorrectly installed and had been damaged. Also the new cam phasers were installed wrong and damaged. Both installed by ft collins muffler. Additionally, there were some minor parts needed that they ignored. The employees involved are **** ******* (serv mgr), ***** *****(0wner), and **** ******* (serv mgr). Now it's going on a third week without the truck. The ford dealer estimates the cost new repairs at $2800. I spoke with ***** and **** today with nothing resolved. I had to contact them like always....no one has initiated contact with us ever since we returned the truck 2nd time after it failed. I was left in the dark with no explanation....awful customer service....especially under these circumstances...no apology... no refund ...nothing at all. I want them to Take Responsibility and refund our money plus extra expenses incurred including the cam phasers(that I now have to replace) and the dealerships cost to diagnose.
Desired Settlement: I want a refund of the money I have paid them plus cost of installing new cam phasers plus extra cost of having Ford dealer diagnose the problem including taking the engine apart . I have documents supporting all of this.
We understand this has been a frustrating experience for ****. We gladly welcome a third party like The Better Business Bureau to mediate a resolution for this situation. **** and I spoke around noon on Monday 3-24-14. During that call **** expressed her concerns and frustrations. I explained to her we would be looking into it and that either I or **** would contact her later that day which we did. I shared with **** that we would know more on Tuesday 3-25-2014 after talking with the persons involved with the diagnosis at the dealership. I eventually asked her what would it take to make her happy and she stated she wanted us to reimburse her in the amount of around $3200.00. I offered to call and update **** on Tuesday and she agreed that would be ok. My Service Manager and General Manager ****
We stated in our first response and still want to resolve the situation. We have not offered anything concrete as we do not know if ******** **** Ford has been able to repair the vehicle or if something we did caused the vehicle's issues. We want to ensure that ****’s vehicle is repaired correctly and the situation is handled fairly. Once the vehicle is fixed we should be able to determine what and if anything we did actually caused further complications with the vehicle. **** stated the job wasn't done properly, but we have been told differently by persons at ******** ****. After ****'s outburst in the lobby of ******** **** to us, it does not seem very likely that a call from us would be appreciated. We feel that a third party will be the most beneficial option to help us reach a conclusion in the event we are unable to communicate with **** productively. We are by no means saying that we do not want to be held accountable. In the event that we have done something incorrectly we absolutely want to make sure that **** and her vehicle are taken care of. The lines of communication have to be reopened in order to find a solution. We are eagerly waiting to hear from **** or the BBB so we can get this handled as soon
Business Response: After receiving the estimate from ******** **** Ford, which did not include the invoice that was paid for diagnosing the vehicle, we feel that arbitration would still be the best path to follow. We have telephone recordings of conversations that took place between **** and ****, as well as the conversations with ******** **** Ford. We look forward to having the arbitration, to have a resolution that is fair for all parties involved.
Better Business Bureau:
I have decided NOT to participate in Binding Arbitration to resolve my complaint with ID *******. I understand that because I have decided to not pursue arbitration that BBB must close my complaint. I have decided to pursue legally or via other avenues.
Also I want to make sure that this case is marked "unresolved" since obviously we don't have a resolution at this time.