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- Length of time business has been operating.
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- Response to 7 complaint(s) filed against business.
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100 Riverine Rd
Glenwood Springs, CO 81601 (970) 945-6591 (970) 945-5200 Directions
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Problems with Product/Service
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Complaint: I went into Elk Mountain Motors to look into buying a vehicle. There was a 2011 truck there that i was interested in. I had forgotten some information at home that i needed to trade my current vehicle in. after talking with the sales manager i was able to bring the truck home that night as a test drive of sorts. In order to do this i gave them my credit card number to hold onto for security reasons. The next morning i got called out of town to work (i am on a traveling work crew) so i returned the truck to the lot, and informed them that i could not go through with the transaction. Two days later my credit card was charged $500. After contacting the sales manager several times has refused to refund my money until i make it into the dealership. After explaining that I can't do that because i am not area and don't know when i will be he went on accusing me of not being truthful of my situation and ruining his sell. $500 is a lot and i feel like i have been taken advantage of.
Desired Settlement: I would like a refund and corrective actions be taken.
December 26, 2013
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BBB's Final Determination: Consumer accepted resolution offered by the business.
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Complaint: Wheel studs nearly resulted in wheel falling off of car. I purchased a brand new 2002 VW Passat W8 from Elk Mountain Motors. The vehicle subsequently spent weeks in the dealership for problems they were unable to repair completely. All service on this vehicle has been done by Elk Mountain Motors' repair department. A 10-year old vehicle with 70-thousand miles. Why? It's been in service more than it's been on the road. The service records are available for review (and should be by the dealership's owner and management). The latest debacle was that the car was in for an oil change. Elk Mountain also performed a brake pad replacement and wheel rotation. A noise was noticed a week after the service. Two of the directional tires were installed backwards. One of the wheels (the noise) was coming loose. One lug nut was stripped and laying inside the hub cap. One was holding the wheel on. Two others (not stripped) were laying inside the hubcap. This lack of attention to detail puts people's lives at risk. Had the wheel fallen off (the likely next progression), the loss of control could have caused a catastrophic accident.
Desired Settlement: I would like a written letter of apology from Elk Mountain Motors regarding their inferior service work over the last 10-years. This vehicle was the most expensive on their lot (even today). I've spent nearly the purchase price at Elk Mountain in repairs on the same vehicle. My customer loyalty has been rewarded with workmanship that has been inferior for a decade. Negligent is probably a more appropriate description.
Mr. ******* **********
BBB's Final Determination: Business offered a resolution. Consumer did not pursue further with BBB and the matter was assumed to be resolved
Problems with Product/Service
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Complaint: snapped timing belt after being assured car was in proper working condition by Elk Mountains General Manager one year ago i bought a 2005 VW GTI. a while after purchasing the car i took if to my mechanic, a certified Volkswagen mechanic, for routine maintenance when he told me to look into when the timing belt was last done. i went into Elk Mountain and confronted their service department, where the told me that it should have been take care of at 75,000mi, (i purchased the car with around 80,000mi) and would look into it; here starts the run-around. after 3 months of "phone tag" with the service department i finally got a direct number for the General Manager, ******, it than took another month to speak with him directly, after leaving numerous messages. he had agreed to talk in person. once i arrived at the pre-owned dealer ship, i told the salesmen that i was there to see ******, i than waited in the lobby for 30 minutes; i shook his hand and explained my case...he took my key and said he was going to have a mechanic take a look at the timing belt, another 30 minutes goes by and the car didn't move nor did anyone look at it... ****** comes out of his office with a piece of paper and my key; he then explains to me what they go over when a car comes in and why they didn't do the timing belt; he then assured me that the car was fine. after telling him that the mechanics in their service department and my personal mechanic told me that the timing belt should have been changed at 75,000mi. he continued to tell me that it was fine, but he shared my concern and would put together a quote that would help with the cost of a new timing belt at dealer cost and email it to me.. a week goes by and no word i continued to call for the next month leaving messages... i gave up. July of this year while driving down Highway 82 my timing belt snapped i had the car towed to my mechanic to confirm the problem the belt tensioner had seized snapping the timing belt which is something that cannot be visually inspected and is the reason this should have been changed at 75,000mi, the cylinder head cracks and the valves bend, i am now looking at a 6000 dollar repair on top of the loan that i am still paying for.
Desired Settlement: all i would like is to get rid of the car and the loan that it carries, without taking a hit on my credit. no refund no replacement. a simple repair and accountability could have gone a long way. all i wanted was a little help from the dealership and all i got was a cold shoulder. for all i care they can have their broken car back. thank you!
Business Response: Business Response /* (1000, 6, 2012/10/31) */ Contact Name and Title: ************** Service Di Contact Phone: XXXXXXXXXXX Contact Email: *****@elkmtnmotors.com In responce to ****** ****** complaint: On 11/29/2011 ****** came in and met with *************. and voiced his concerns on the timming belt.***** then talked with ************* the service manager about when the timming belt should have be replaced as well as if he could tell if the belt had been replaced. **** printed out the VW service Guide that shows recommended replacement at 105,000 miles. inspections of the belt at 60,000 80,000 and 100,000. the inspection is to check for signs of the belt only for cracking or fraying.**** then told ***** there was no way we could tell if this had been replaced at this time.***** asked for an estimate on the replacement of the timming belt and all other components involved.***** then gave ****** a copy with a reduced price on the timmimg belt to him signed and dated with a copy put into the car deal file. I have attached copies for you to review. Our normal price for this service would have been $1346.95 and we offered it to ****** at a reduced price of $673.48 ****** never returned to us to have this done. ****** purchased a used car from us and it was sold AS IS with all faults. This was disclosed on the buyers order that ****** signed at the time of sale. He also declined the extended warranty that was offered While we understand ******'s frustration with his current situation, we feel that we addressed his concerns when we offered him a substantially discounted timing belt service in November of last year. We had received no further comunication from ****** regarding this matter until he filed this complaint. Consumer Response /* (3000, 8, 2012/11/05) */ (The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.) First of all, visual inspections of a belt can not tell a mechanic anything about the internal components of an engine and their condition and it's the internal components that are exposed to chemicals like coolant that breakdown things like gaskets and o-rings in-turn cause those components to seize up, in my case it was the water pump and or the belt tensioner both are things that CAN NOT be visually inspected... Secondly, the reason a consumer would even buy a car from a used dealer ship epically one like Volkswagen, is to ensure that they are buying a vehicle that is reliable and mechanically sound NOT one that is going to cost them $6000 to repair a year later, because the dealer was to lazy to do any routine maintenance. I myself pulled and replaced corroded spark plugs, that should have been visually inspected and replaced if necessary, just as a side note... Lastly, ***** had taken down my email and told me that he would send me a quote via email of what it would cost to replace the timing belt and that he was willing to help me out. After that i received NO emails, NO phone calls and NOTHING regarding anything to do with my visit Elk Mountain Motors! this company has by far the worst customer service i have ever experienced and that is why i contacted the BBB. Business Response /* (4000, 13, 2012/11/21) */ Case # XXXXXXXX ****** ****** In Response to the Second Complaint from Mr. ****** While we can certainly sympathize with Mr. ******, the only way to insure that a vehicle will have no parts failure costs is to purchase a new vehicle. New vehicles come with a warranty included because even on brand new cars parts can fail. All of our used vehicles are sold "as is" unless different arrangements are made at the time of sale. Even though no such arrangements were made at the time of sale with Mr. ******, we still offered him a deeply discounted repair when he contacted us 3 months later. It was his choice to continue driving this vehicle and not to make the repairs that had been recommended by "his" mechanic. Any car that is not maintained as recommended will eventually have expensive repairs. As we previously stated on 10/31/2012: Mr. ****** was personally offered a discounted rate for the timing belt service when he came into our dealership on 11/29/2011. This offer was kept on file and was available to any service adviser if ****** would have returned for the service. Finding this offer took me less than 5 minutes to pull for the first response to this complaint. ***** had placed everything in his car deal for us to find. ************* informed Mr. ****** that we could not tell if the timing belt service had been done. ***** also, at that time, offered Mr. ****** the discounted service. Mr. ****** by, his signature, declined an extended warranty on his car at time of purchase. We provided ****** with 2 different options early on in the ownership of his car. The Extended warranty that he declined and a discounted rate on the timing belt service that he was concerned about three months after purchase. I have no record of Mr. ****** ever bringing his car to my service department for any maintenance work or making any response to our offer of a discounted service. Mr. ****** states he takes his car to "his" Volkswagen Mechanic. We cannot be held responsible for his failure to maintain the car. He tells us that he was concerned about the timing belt service but he never followed through with the timing belt replacement with our service department or, apparently, with his Volkswagen Mechanic. Consumer Response /* (4200, 15, 2012/11/30) */ (The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.) As I had said before; I never received this or any discounted offers other than the automated emails that get sent to anyone that has ever bought a car there. I had called several times and received NO returned calls after talking with *****. also, take note to the email that's on the bottom of the blue sticky note, ***** wrote that down and told me that he would email a discounted quote once he found out what he could do for me; hence the reason i continued to call after i spoke with ***** and NEVER RECEIVED ANYTHING!!! i knew that i was playing with fire while i was driving a car with a defective engine and that it was a matter of time before the timing belt snapped, but when you work full time and attend school full time (paying out of pocket) it's pretty hard to come with a thousand dollars to fix a car that i just paid ten-thousand dollars for. yes the is sold "as is" and this was the first car that i have ever bought from a dealership, if i had known that i was going to get screwed over this hard i would have bought from a private owner and i would have probably gotten a better car. Why it is that you don't have any records of me having the car worked on there is because i have an awesome mechanic who doesn't over charge for any of the work that he has done for me and the day that timing belt snapped i was taking it to him to get it changed out... sense you won't doing anything for me i'm going to rebuild the engine myself and do all the work that your service department should have done. i will always stand by what i said in my previous response, and that is that "ELK MOUNTAIN MOTORS HAS BY FAR THE WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE I HAVE EVER COME ACROSS"?. And i am going to make sure that, that word spreads rapidly.
BBB's Final Determination: After reviewing the position of all parties, BBB determined that the business made a reasonable effort to address the complaint. However the consumer remains dissatisfied.
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|10/27/2011||Problems with Product/Service|