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Achieve Today LLC

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Phone: (800) 748-5199 Fax: (801) 705-5393 View Additional Phone Numbers 5252 Edgewood Dr Ste 150, Provo, UT 84604 View Additional Email Addresses http://www.achievetoday.com


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Customer Complaints Summary Read complaint details

19 complaints closed with BBB in last 3 years | 4 closed in last 12 months
Complaint Type Total Closed Complaints
Advertising/Sales Issues 3
Billing/Collection Issues 6
Delivery Issues 0
Guarantee/Warranty Issues 0
Problems with Product/Service 10
Total Closed Complaints 19

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6 Customer Reviews on Achieve Today LLC
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Positive Experience 0
Neutral Experience 0
Negative Experience 6
Total Customer Reviews 6

Additional Information

BBB file opened: December 02, 2004 Business started: 06/01/1999 Business started locally: 06/01/1999 Business incorporated 06/01/2004 in UT
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160 E 300 S, Salt Lake City UT 84111
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Phone Number: (801) 530-6601
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Corporation

Business Management
Mr. Aaron Peterson, Owner/EVP Sales Mr. Steve Downs, Student Relations Manager Mr. Dave Greene, VP of Operations
Contact Information
Customer Contact: Mr. Steve Downs, Student Relations Manager
Principal: Mr. Aaron Peterson, Owner/EVP Sales
Business Category

Coaching - Business Internet Services Real Estate Training Programs Business Opportunity Companies Business Consultants

Alternate Business Names
Money Mentor Center LLC Prosper Learning Prosper, Inc. The Success Network
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According to information in BBB files, Energy Professional Marketing Group and Private Mentoring Group are located at the same address and using the same telephone numbers. A separate report on Energy Professional Marketing Group is available upon request.

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This company offers training programs.

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Coaching - Training Programs

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    12257 Business Park Dr Ste 200

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    346 Grand Loop, Targhee Ste 300

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    5252 Edgewood Dr Ste 150

    Provo, UT 84604 (801) 371-0755 (800) 748-5199 (800) 743-9833 (800) 743-8533

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Complaint Detail(s)

8/16/2016 Billing/Collection Issues | Read Complaint Details
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Complaint: I signed Up with Achieve Today June 29 2015 for a yearly agreement which Expired June 29 2016 I paid my account in full In my agreement there was a clause if I wished to continue Services with them I would be billed 49.99 i opted out of this option so therefore My account is no longer accessible. I received a letter from Monterey Financial Services on August 12 2016 The Letter was dated July 29 2016 Stating I was being billed for another full year of Services which I never agreed on. I have been charged 183.53 on my credit card on August 5 2016 I want to be reimbursed for the charges I have yet to hear back from Achieve Today in regards to this Issue I am currently unemployed and cant afford these services wish to have the Matter resolved and have my credit card information deleted from there files.

Desired Settlement: My Credit refunded and deleted from there company files do not wish to conduct any Future business with this company for I feel they are Fraudulent.

4/26/2016 Problems with Product/Service | Read Complaint Details
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Complaint: I have been placed under collections with this fraudulent company for services never rendered. They have ruined my life essentially, rather than helping.

Desired Settlement: I want at the very least a correction to my credit report, and the collections stopped immediately. Furthermore, a refund for what I've already paid seems fairly appropriate.

Business Response:

*****, you enrolled with us on 2/21/2015 for a 12 month coaching program in the amount of $2,550 dollars. Of that, $2,000 dollars was financed and you agreed to, and have an agreement/contract, to pay that loan back regarding the terms of that financial loan and contract for $2,000 dollars with Achieve Today.

Services were rendered and there are time stamps of the initial four coaching sessions that you received from us as well as continued coaching and multiple resources that were available to you as to date. Part of the agreement talks about your commitments to the program, as well as ours. However, you fell short of your commitments and you did not do your part to receive the fullest value of the coaching program. All resources and services were available to you, unfortunately, you did not utilize them as we described to you from the very beginning of your enrollment.

You have been placed under collections and those collection efforts will continue until your bring your account current. There will be no refund or cancellation regarding the initial financial obligation that you have agreed too. Also, there will be no refund pertaining to your initial cash investment of $550.00 dollars.

You fail to mention within this complaint *****, that you did in fact use services and that you also did not follow through with your end of the agreement.

Again, there will be no refund or cancellation of the financial loan that you contractually entered into. Those collection efforts and the negative reporting will continue until you rectify the past due balance.

We would be more than happy to make sure that once that account is brought current with its past due amount of $******** that you can not only receive the continued value of the program, but that the negative reporting to your credit will stop and we are willing to even remove the past negative reporting that has affected your credit score.

Please reach out to us to rectify this past due balance based on the services that were rendered to you and the services that were available to you during your 12 month program. Again, at that point we will be more than happy to provide some additional services to you that are outside of your 12 month program to make sure that you do in fact gain the value that we promised on our end, but again, you will need to keep the commitment this time to see the results you initially were looking for. 

Consumer Response:


Complaint: ********

I am rejecting this response because:

There is absolutely no attempt at compromise or resolve of this matter on part of Achieve Today.

The so-called "agreement" that Achieve Today claims we have made together, if, in fact, was actually "agreed to" on my part, would have been done so under absolute coercion by Achieve Today and during a state of my own diminished mental capacity due to severe depression-- which, I might add is how Achieve Today gains "clients": by using predatory tactics against people who are at their lowest point in life.

If anyone were to listen to the recordings of conversations between myself and Achieve Today, they would surely agree that I "signed" this "contract" under duress. I told Achieve Today that I could not possibly afford the program on a bus driver's salary, to which they quickly responded: "That's only your limiting beliefs talking. If you simply believe that you can afford it, you CAN!"

Furthermore, it was impossible to reach out to the coaches, as directed by Achieve Today, or the billing department for that matter-- getting only automated voice services. To say that I did not live up to my end of the agreement is a complete lie. I would love to see the time-stamped evidence of all my usage of said services, though I am willing to bet that it won't happen.

This company is nothing more than a hyped up pyramid scheme (I soon started receiving emails stating that I should also become a coach for their company).

I have no desire to ever associate myself with this company again, let alone ever continuing the "coaching program". I am so ashamed that I ever fell for this scam.

Apparently, Achieve Today deems themselves worthy of payment for their successful defrauding of individuals trying to better themselves, therefore I am willing to call the matter closed if they close the collections account and have it wiped from my credit report. I will eat the $500+ dollars I already paid them and consider it a valuable lesson learned the hard way.


Sincerely,

***** *****

Business Response: *****, There is an agreement in place that you had agreed to. There is a time stamp and an IP address that confirms you agreed to the terms and services of this program. You are correct, you could not afford the coaching program up front and this is why you were financed and received a loan. You actually stated that this loan was a better option for you financially and a great option for you to actually take advantage of our coaching. This way, you did not have to pay the full cost up front, but over 12 months, at a monthly fee. You have been delinquent with this loan and this is why you are now expressing the dissatisfaction that you claim you had with the coaching program. Not once have you called into our organization to express any dissatisfaction about the coaching. The only time you have done so, is now, and that is because you were placed into collections. 


Again, based on what has transpired and the agreements in place, there will be no cancellation of the contract or the loan that you are delinquent with. The collection efforts will continue and the delinquent balance will need to be paid in full to remedy this situation. The agreement is specific of the commitments that you need to keep within the 12 month program and you did not do your part. Services were available to you, unfortunately you did not take advantage of those services. Even though you did not do you part, we have costs that were incurred because they were in fact, available to you. The bulk, 85% of your investment (And not completely paid for), was allocated to the one on one sessions that you received and were provided to you. 

There will be no cancellation or refund. That balance will need to be paid in full to the financial institution. If you pay that balance off in full, I can certainly assist you with your request to remove any negative reporting to your credit score. Until that balance is paid in full there will be no discussion regarding that specific request. Furthermore, if that account is paid in full, we would be more than happy to continue to work with you if you'd like. That means we would extend your services at no cost even though we do not have to, we would. You can decide to use them or not, but those will be your options at this point in time. 

I encourage you to reach out to us or the financial company to pay your past due and at which point, we can discuss your options moving forward even more. Also, you can access your contract online. You can see what exactly it was that you agreed to and the commitments that you said you'd keep, not only with your efforts during the program, which would have helped you see more results, but the loan that you received needed to paid for the services that were rendered and available to you. 

Consumer Response:


Complaint: ********

I am rejecting this response because:

It is evident that Achieve Today has no qualms about lying, nor do they ever deny their predatory marketing schemes. 

May Achieve Today reap what they sow.


Sincerely,

***** *****

3/22/2016 Problems with Product/Service | Read Complaint Details
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Complaint: This company and their product is deceitful. The materials on the website that are the basis of this program are extremely obselete. The materials that are not obselete are few and far between. There are courses that deal with ecommerce and Internet marketing that are 8-9 years old. The sales people are also deceptive because they sell this program as a year long coaching mentorship. They charge you for a year upfront and give you four weeks of actual coaching. Of my four coaching sessions, I felt rushed at times, as they are no longer than 20 minutes. I paid for an entire year of coaching but only received (4) 20 minute sessions. They know their product is lacking, the customer is unable to cancel once they find out that it's lacking. This fact is shown when customers are contracted to pay for a year of services upfront (as opposed to monthly). They have over promised and under-delivered. I am dissatisfied and feel deceived by Achieve Today. I do not recommend this company for coaching or anything else they supposedly offer. They are scammers.

Desired Settlement: As a dissatisfied customer, I want a full refund from Achieve Today [my down payment plus two monthly payments] and cancellation of all remaining charges associated with my account.

Business Response:

*******, you enrolled into our 12 month coaching program on 10/7/2015. Upon enrollment we are very specific that you have 12 months of coaching. You are told, based on the program cost that you could afford, $2,550, that there were two phases of the coaching. Phase 1 and Phase 2. Your initial phase is where you have those one-on-one coaching sessions. In your specific case, that was 4 coaching sessions. After those sessions are complete you then have coaching through the Coaching Support Team for the remainder of the 12 months. Again, this is very specific within your agreement but more importantly, based on call recordings I reviewed, these facts were outlined to you during all enrollment calls.

You have not once used the resources through the Coaching Support Team based on all system notes and time stamps we keep with your student account records.

Our Student Care department spoke to you on 1/4/2016 as we provided you the login information to your learning platform (website). Your program was through Personal Development and all PD material is up to date. The specific website we had you login to, has new written courses and material each week. These are not out dated. There was an older website that you also had access to which had different program courses available to you if you had decided to actually use those materials, but those were not the materials that were specific to your Personal Development course that you purchased. They were just there in the event you wanted supplemental material for other opportunities you may be interested.

When you enrolled into our program you were unable to make the payment in full. So, you were financed. This way you could pay for the coaching on a monthly basis. I am not sure why you would state that we do not offer this option since it is the very option you have for your coaching program with us today. This is a loan that you have and at this point in time I see that you are delinquent with your payments with the bank.

We are sorry that you feel you have not received value from the coaching. I can see why, and that is because you are not doing your part based on the mutual agreement that we had with one another. You have not once called in to the Coaching Team. You have not attended any of our ten, 1 hour Group coaching calls that take place each week. Nor are you actively using the online website the way it is intended to be used. If you were to use these resources consistently and from week to week I am confident you would see the value you were initially looking for and the program that we represented correctly form the beginning.

That being said, your program will not be cancelled and there will be no refund. Also, that loan of $2,000 dollars still has a past due balance that needs to be paid so you become current. If that is not paid then the bank will move forward with negative credit reporting and I would suggest you avoid that by any means possible.

Usually, I suspend accounts when a student’s financing is past due. However, based on your recent frustration I will keep your account active so you can start to use the program to its fullest now that it is very clear to you what is exactly expected for you to see value with this program. If there is no good faith attempt to bring your financial loan current in the coming weeks then I will have no chose but to suspend your account until we remedy that loan account.

I encourage you to do all you can to maximize the program resources at this time so you can gain the value the program has to offer. I suggest you call into our Coaching Team next week to start receiving coaching calls and guidance to help you with your Personal Development goals. 

1/21/2016 Billing/Collection Issues | Read Complaint Details
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Complaint: Achieve Today is a personal growth and business coaching company. Im my case I was interested in a $3000 program and was upsold to a $6000 program in hopes of getting better results with personal coaching. I became involved in September of 2015. My complaint is they have a clause in the contract to auto renew at the end of the year for $47.95 per month. But they tell you that you will be contacted before they make any charges to see if this is what you want to do. I wasn't contacted. They've made charges for the past 3 months and refuse to charge them back to my card. What I want is for them to charge the $47.95 back to my card for the months they took it out. This whole thing is a overpriced scam promising that if you receive their coaching you can get your desired results. All I want if for the three months charges were made to be credited back.

Desired Settlement: I just want them to charge back to my card the three months of deductions at $47.95 per month for a total of $143.85.

Business Response:

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We are sorry to hear that you are frustrated with those valid monthly charges. You are inaccurate when stating " they tell you that you will be contacted before they make any charges to see if this is what you want to do. I wasn't contacted'. This is completely false. Upon your enrollment back on 9/26/2014 we explain that there is a renewal fee of $47.95 after 12 months and that you need to cancel that charge to avoid any future billings. The specific verbiage of the contract is as follows:

"Automatic Membership Renewal Policy:
To ensure you experience no interruption in your access to The Success Center site, we will begin billing $47.95 every month beginning 365 days from today for continued access to all the resources available through Success Center and the Coaching Support Line. In order to avoid being billed for continued access to these resources after your initial year of service has been completed, you must notify Student Care that you wish to discontinue your subscription.

As a summary, your purchase includes the recurring charge described above. Recurring charge: $47.95; First Billing: 2015-September-26; Billing period: Monthly. You will be charged this monthly recurring amount to the credit card you provided."

You called our billing department on 1/11/2016 and we informed you of this and also informed you that there will be no refunds since those are valid charges pertaining to our mutual agreement with one another. You had access to our services whether you took advantage of those or not. We staff accordingly and because you were active during that time frame, we occurred costs to fulfill and provide you services when/if needed.

We will not be refunding any of those monthly charges and we have cancelled out all future charges/billings, so you will not be billed again based on your previous request.

 

 


6/16/2015 Problems with Product/Service | Read Complaint Details
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Complaint: Those services were not delivered and an important part of the services which were mentioned was not delivered I stopped making payments due to the violation of Contract by Prosper. Part of the services which was weekly support call and were deemed an important part of the services by GIL and Nate ****** who was the individual who signed up. Those services were not delivered and due to the lack of delivery of the important part of the program and services which were mentioned while I was being lured into the program,my condition has not changed and I do not see any impact on my development in the area. I signed up for $2500 for the whole year worth of program. After the 4 (30 Mins) sessions in the first month, the following months I left many messages and no one called back until a month later which was supposed to be weekly follow up support call. I dont belive that such a sloppy service is worth$2500. I think for what achieve is offering it should only be $200 -$300 at max. Also the product Achieve is delivering is nothing special. All of the information is available for free on the youtube.

Desired Settlement: See Complaint Text

Business Response: Imran, you enrolled into our coaching program on 4/2/2014.
Upon enrollment we go over the details of your order in depth and make sure you
are aware of the specifics that are related to your enrollment. The coaching
was a 12 month program where you had four initial one-on-one coaching sessions
and the remainder of the program was the Support Line assistance and the weekly
Graduate one hour Calls that you could access. You had your initial four
coaching sessions that you and your coach were able to make progress with.

As I reviewed your account your initial four coaching
sessions went well. I say that based on emails from you to you coach and the
notations that we have within your account. Not once did you feel during that
time that the coaching was not satisfactory. A matter of fact, you were
grateful for the sessions you had with your coach and had expressed that to us
at that time. The programs value that you describe within your complaint does
not reflect the coaching you admitted you received early on. Our services are
not free on “You Tube”. There are many resources that are online that can be
beneficial. If a coach directs you to any free resources that can benefit you,
then that is a great resource to have. Our online member’s area has a deep
database of resources and material for you to access, none of which is just free
online.

Again, as I reviewed your account you filled out a survey
expressing the non-responsiveness that you encountered with our Support Line.
This was on 5/2/2014, just one month after your enrollment. In fact, it was the
same week that your fourth and final session was completed with your coach. We
took that information you submitted seriously and we called you 6 times and
emailed you twice in the span of three weeks trying to address this issue. We
were only able to leave voice messages until we finally arranged a time to
speak over the phone. At which point we spoke to you about the resources
available and addressed the Support Line help and hours of operations. As I
reviewed that call recording, we did all we could to explain the services that
were available for you. We went into detail making sure you knew that you
needed to call in, the Support Line does not call you weekly. This was also
explained in detail from the beginning upon enrollment. You had acknowledge
that you will call the Support Line during business hours and that you also
will do all you could to attend the weekly Graduate Calls.

One month after we had this conversation with you, you had
not called into our Support Line once. Our system automatically time stamps and
notes your account if you call, email or use our online chat system. In fact,
one month later your only communication with us was that you had billing
questions and needed to speak to Student Care. Student Care tried to call you
on 6/24/2014 through 7/8/2014 but to no avail. We also emailed you twice to see
what we could do to assist you. You never responded per our request to have you
call us back pertaining the matter.

Your account is delinquent and you have been subject to
collections. We did all we could to resolve any issues that you felt you had
with our services and when we did make an extra effort to accommodate you, you
still did not use the services the way the coaching was intended. Myself, and
our Collection team tried to reach out to you many times in December of 2014
and January of 2015 to do what we could to assist you with the coaching and the
delinquency you had with your financial loan. Imran, you never returned any of
my calls. You were non-responsive. We are more than happy to assist you with
any coaching we can. I would be more than willing to make sure you gain some
value from our services, however, you will need to be accountable to make sure
you commit the time and effort needed. This was not the case for the full 12
months of your program. You did great in the first month, and we admit there
was difficulty for you and the Support Line then, but we did all we could to
rectify that issue but you did not follow through on your end. This was a 12
month program and you did not keep the commitments needed for the entire
duration.

You will be obligated to bring your delinquent account up to
date or you will have a negative impact to you credit. Again, we are willing to
do all we can to make sure you can still gain value from the coaching at no additional
cost. We will need to bring your account current and move forward from there. I
look forward to speaking with you so that we can come to terms regarding your
account but more importantly we want you to be able to accomplish the goals you
initial had when you enrolled with us. 

Consumer Response:  I disagree with the response because of:


  1. When Gill ******* was enrolling me in the course. He was just waxing lyrical about the romance of the course. Gill and the instructor told me to make sure  and call the customer services 800 number and speak with the trainers who are available "everyday". Both Gill and the instructor emphasized that it is imperative that I speak with the trainers on a weekly basis as the program requires reinforcement. I tried calling on a weekly basis but never got a response back in time. I only got a call back two or three times and that was three to 4 weeks later and hence the time for weekly reinforcement was lapsed. This left  the reinforcement exercise ineffective. Hence the goal of this 1 year program was not met and terms and conditions that the trainer and Gill set up for me were violated. We cannot go by the contract because it is very vague and does not mention the service providers accountability to provide services.
  2. I had brought my payments upto date at Sergios (Montereys Account Manager) request at a condition that he will get this resolution for me by July 7 104 and get Achieve to provide me with services. He called me and left me a message saying that he tried contacted Achieve and left a message but there was no response  from Achieve and again left my case un resolved.
  3. It has been a year and I have only recieved threatening collection calls and am still waiting for my resolution that Sergio promised. 
  4. All of the material on Achieve website is online available free on youtube and internet. The entire material information should have been transparent and which was not. To charge $2700 for something that is already available free online by making people sign a contract is intrapment and is a fraud. 
  5. Achieve is not only not providing any specialized service that is worth $ 2700 but also not in compliance with their own performance ethics.
  6. I have already paid $700 for just 4 (30 mins each ) sessions. I have not gotten anything other than that from achieve. Which comes out to ve $ 350/ hour. They are charging this amout of money and dont even have any psychological or medical license. The medical doctors and psychologist who are professionally trained do not even charge that mount of money. I think I should get.some of my money back from those $700 because those sessions were definitely not worth $350/hour.
I ask BBB to intervene and get me the justice.
Complaint: ********

I am rejecting this response because:

Sincerely,

Imran *****

Business Response: Imran, it is as if you did not even read the earlier
response we provided to you. Within that response we outlined a very specific
and detailed time line as to what actually transpired. Your allegations do not
line up with any of the emails, system notes, and call records (both sent from
you to us and sent by Achieve Today to you), time stamps, as well as the communication
Achieve Today had with Monterey Financial.

You were delinquent with a financial loan and are trying to
put blame on a service you did not try to use after 3 months of involvement. As
we explained in the above response, there was a one week period where you felt
there was a lack of communication with our support Line. We spoke to you
regarding that issue and there was no other issue relating to the program,
except, you were behind on your loan and because of that you tried to find a
loop hole and falsely claim a breach in the agreement. The one week we referred
to above is not a breach of the mutual agreement we have together. We
appreciated the feedback and made the necessary changes to accommodate your
efforts in calling into our Support Line. However, you never tried to continue
your efforts with the coaching since the end of June 2014. Again, like I
mentioned earlier, I personally called you for weeks to address the financial
loan you were so delinquent with, but you never answered or returned my voice
messages. We tried to do all we could to assist you. Your only acceptance is to
have the loan cancelled, and that will not happen due to what transpired with
you and your specific involvement and the lack of commitments you had with our
program.

There will be no cancellation of your financial loan and you
will continue to be subject to the collection efforts from Monterey Financial.
I would be more than happy to assist you in trying to lower the overall balance
so that you can pay that off in full. At which point, I would also love to do
all we could to continue to provide any services that you could benefit from
with our program. My contact information is provided within.

Hopefully we are finally able to speak over the phone and
make sure you settle your account accordingly and we can proceed from there. 

2/4/2015 Billing/Collection Issues | Read Complaint Details
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Complaint: I became ill in October 2012 and did not know if I would be able to rejoin the work force. I contacted Prosper about couching for a Home based business. Total investment was to be about $2000.00. After paying $600.00 I received a couple of calls from my couch. Then my couch was no where to be found for about a month. Someone from Prosper called me and informed me that my couch was in another department now. Since then an additional $183.35 was taken from my checking. I was out $783.35 with no services being provided. I should not have to look for people I hire to do a job. It left a bad taste in my mouth and I told them I would be canceling the agreement. Basically-Your Fired. It soon went to collections and my reason for canceling fell on deaf ears. They still wanted to collect my money for doing nothing. This is now a big problem on my credit report.

Desired Settlement: Remove dispute from my credit report

Business Response: ***, you enrolled into our coaching program
on 11/28/2012 in the amount of $2,600.00 dollars for a one year coaching
program. Upon enrollment you were financed and a loan was provided for you, to
help you pay for the coaching program. You had a down payment of $600.00
dollars and you were financed $2,000.00 dollars to fulfill the purchase. During
your enrollment we took you through a very detailed registration process where
we explain number of commitments that are expected of you and what you can
expect from us during the year program. During the registration if you felt
that at any time you could not keep those commitments, then you had the option
to withdraw from our services and the agreement that you had agreed to at that
time. There is nothing we can do to remove the inquiries that have been reported
to the major credit bureaus. You received a loan from a financial institution
and you agreed you would pay that back. From what I can see, there is still a
remaining balance that you need to pay off. If you reach out to the financial
company, and work out a payment plan, then they may be able to assist you
regarding this request. 



During registration we explained to you in detail
once again what services you would be receiving. Your program package had four
one-on-one coaching sessions, you also had access to the resource line of
coaches that you could call on a daily basis when needed. There were weekly
group coaching calls that you could have accessed throughout the year as well.
You had access to an online member’s area that provided a great deal of information
to help you gain value from the program and to reach your goals. There were
many resources available to you during that years’ time, which you decided not
utilize. You never called in to address any issues that you may have had with
the program either. We would be more than happy to extend services for you once
we get confirmation that the loan is settled or paid for in full. That loan
will need to be paid back because you had used all four coaching sessions. We
also allocated your program cost to cover all the other resources that I
indicated above and there were staffing fees and other expenses which were paid
for, in the event you did use the program the way it was intended. 



Again, we would be willing to extend the program
for you at this time at no expense. If you are willing to do your part as you
initially agreed to do and we get confirmation that the loan was settled or
paid in full then we can proceed to provide these additional services. 

Consumer Response:

 
Complaint: ********

I am rejecting this response because:

I expressed on numerous occasions my dissatisfaction with the company. I received no materials and the so called coaching was a total joke. When I called to speak with a  coach who was some what  familiar with what I was trying

to do, I was told he is in another department. The old "Bait and Switch". When I did reach someone to talk to, it was starting the hole process over again. "Waste of Time" The only business advice they gave was create a Web Page.

For a company that say's they are Professional Business Coaches and say "Get a Web Page. that is a little generic don't you think?

1. I kept my commitment by calling your company many of times with nothing to show for it. Then the threatening calls started 

2. If your company provided a service you are entitled to be paid for it. If you do not provide a promised service you should not be paid!  It's called Breaking the Contract/No Services Rendered.

3. Most important: Why would Achieve Today AKA Prosper need a loan from a Financial Institution for me to work with you.

4. I never agreed to pay back a loan and never told you to take out a loan. I agreed to pay for $2,600 of Professional Services which were not provided.

5. I would like the Following info to prove a loan was taken out for me.

6 Why did Prosper change the name to Achieve Today? To many complaints under Prosper? That's a RED FLAG

7. I have found a lot of the same complaints filed with the BBB. Why Achieve Today AKA Prosper allowed to continue praying on peoples hopes of doing better for them selves? 

Name of Loan Institution and DBA if applicable

Address

Phone number

And finally, a copy of the loan or loan number to prove that a loan was taken out for me.  

As far as    

Sincerely,

*** ****

Business Response: ***,

You make mention that you made numerous attempts to express
your dissatisfaction. There is not one system note of you calling in to express
this claim. Every time you call into our office your account is time stamped
and noted. If you are able to provide us with any contacts here within our
company then we would love to look at that information. You also say you made
calls to our company “Many Times” which again, we do not show any of those
efforts. You received your four main coaching session and after which you had
access to our support line to contact daily if needed. That never happened.
There were commitments that you needed to keep for 12 months and that was not
the case.

The reason there was a loan associated with your account was
because you were not in a financial position to pay for the course up front. We
then explained to you that there will be an amount of $2,000.00 financed over a
twelve month period. You are very familiar with the financing company. Monterey
Financial was the servicing company for that loan. You agreed to pay that
amount back based on the term and commitments made upon enrollment. Monterey
Financial had even reached out to you a number of times to work with you to
help you bring your account current.

Other companies (like www.Prosper.com) have similar names as
ours, so we wanted a name that was more distinctive. I am more than happy to
have you reach out to me so that you can get the agreement that you had agreed
to when enrolling.

At this time, we will not be removing any negative reporting
due to the delinquency of your debt. We would be willing to meet you half. If
you are able to pay that amount off, then we can make a request to Monterey
Financial to accommodate this request. Please reach out to me so that I can
better assist with this option.

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Complaint: I wonder if you can help me? I am a British citizen living in the UK, and receive emails on personal development on the internet as it is an interest of mine. I have previously read information on "Law of Attraction" by Joe Vitale who was also a co-author of the book published called "the Secret" on this subject. Recently, I had a cold call from a representative called ****** in a company called" achieve today" based in Utah, and after this hour long interview call, I was passed on to another man called *****, followed by another hour long call to persuade me to part with my money, as I was accep*** on their restric*** year programme. The costs from $6,000 to 9,000+ and I went for the cheapest. A few days later, I had a brief orientation call from a woman ?Ms ****, and then was able to puruse the product information in their so called "success centre" on the Achieve Today website. I must admit at being underwhelmed by the contents which, frankly is available free, some better, all over the internet by competitors not charging. I emailed them to tell them it was unsuitable for me within the 3 days, and told them I felt the quality of written and recorded information was lacking, poor in many ways, and available free elsewhere. My email cancelled the contract until I could confirm this by speaking to someone out of courtesy. However, when ***** called he was bullish in his response and persuaded me it was too early as it was different as it offered one to one coaching. so I agreed to have my first coaching telephone call in a few days, but this was after the cancellation date. ******, my ascribed coach was charming and friendly, but is now on holiday for 2 weeks. The content of the half hour weekly call, was little more than one can get on videos available on the website resources or elsewhere. I further reflec*** my discontent, again by email but as it was the Christmas time, I only got a telephone response last evening, also from a bullish representative called *** *******, probably reading from a script certainly keeping to tight rules. He told me he was the "student rep" (but that name doesn't correlate to that I checked on your information on the company). He told me I could not talk to anyone further up the company reporting line as he was the representative for students and the CEO would only pass it back to him. As I got nowhere and it became a circular conversation, I could see that i would get no further, so had to give up my quest to get a refund. As I am unfamiliar with US law, I quizzed him on general US law on cancellation and he told me the 3 days is typical and only under special circumstances such as a 'terminal illness' is the only grounds they would consider for a refund. I feel caught by the company, initially by pressure selling over the telephone on a cold call, then when they told me not to cancel before getting coached, then when I was still ujnsatisfied by rthe product as it dissappointing, I was told it was too late according to US law. This feels like a 'scam' which I told the rep, and even if it is not, it certainly feels like very sharp practise to dupe customers by bullish selling tactics and emotional pressure. I am surprised as in UK the law is typically 30 days refund, and rules exist when a product or service is deemed by the customer "to be unfit for purpose" otherwise shoddy which I do in this case. Other US product offered on the internet have refund deals for far less expensive products and it seems fairer. Therefore, I wonder if you can help me sort this out, as i am unable to afford such a product that is unsuitablle fo my needs and under a quality compared to other currenlty available. My circumstances makes me vulnerable and represents further stress to my situation which I need to minimise as much as possible. I look forward to any help you may be able to give me.

Business Response: ****, we appreciate the feedback that you have provided
within this statement. We are a surprised to hear that you feel this coaching
program is of no value to you. Even after you made these comments, you had
continued to have the coaching sessions from your coach? During your enrollment
process we try to be as clear and as detailed as possible regarding the
cancellation options. You enrolled on 12/6/2014 and when you spoke to Student
Care that was on 12/29/2014. We do have in place a 3 business day cancellation
option in place, this is given to you by us. In fact, we do not need to provide
a cancellation option. It seems that you spoke to Mr. ****** regarding your
reservations to continue the coaching. His intent was not to make you feel
pressured. This is why he offered you to have a coaching session to see if this
is something you truly wanted. Listening to call recordings and reviewing our
system notes, you emailed your coach and expressed gratitude of what she was
able to discuss with you during that first session and that you wanted to
continue. You have now completed 4 coaching sessions and as I listened to those
recordings and reviewed the coach’s notes, you are making progress. However,
you mentioned to the coach some personal issues that you are facing and that
you felt this program was not for you based on those issues. These are things
we can bring value and add help to you so that you can reach the goals that you
initially wanted to accomplish through this program. You are outside the
cancellation time frame and you had re-committed to the coaching via email and
by utilizing services since the first session.

We are more than happy to speak with you and discuss
different program options that we can offer. If we need to change coaches or
discuss any other options that may be available to you, we are happy to do so,
but again, cancellation and a refund is not an option. At this time I can have your
upcoming coaching sessions with your coach unscheduled so that we can discuss
what may be the best route for you is at this time or, I can keep that session
in place and we can continue to move forward as is. Please let us know.

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Complaint: After four weeks immersion I realized I had not been of sound mind with this choice of help and none of this material was appropriate. On December 21, 2013 I paid Prospering. Inc. $3000. for 52 weeks coaching/business direction. The Seller was a lovely man, **** *******. In years past I had been self employed for 16 years and thought this "coaching" would enable me to choose a new direction for a new business endeavor. Recently retired I felt quite desperate to find a new independent business as my only resource was Social Security. I had great trepidation and even queried Mr. ******* on the efficacy of a person my age taking on such an endeavor. I chose to proceed, trusting for the best. I listened to the recommended materials more than 10 hours/per day and found them frustrating, infuriating, and frightfully 19th century. Nevertheless I sloogged on taking notes hoping it would eventually give me a new perspective. I also worked with a Coach in Self development as a Prelimary task as I had suffered a life threatening blow to my self which created overwhelming fears. I had 3 sessions with ****** ******* who meant well and I did all that was asked. She was not a person who took "interruptions" so it was a one-way street. At this time I had opportunity to move to a safer place and took this decision. This was a very difficult, down-sizing task and took 3 weeks to accomplish. (This was during mid-January.) I was disheartened and delayed getting back to ****** as the phone service turned out to be very bad as well as the internet service at this new location. During this month (January - February), acclimating to my new situation I realized how unsafe I had been and as I settled down and tried to return to the tasks with Prosper where I left off, saw clearly that NONE of this was in any degree "appropriate" for a person of my age, my "skill-sets" (archaic as they have become) and that my decision to go forward with it, in December, was from a place of desperation on more than one level. At first I told my self that since I had agreed I should just "face the music" and pay it off however long it took, but I was not comfortable with this. Something was not right. During the first months I was called a few times with "upsell" offers, at which I was appalled and not the slightest tempted--I pointed out to the persons calling how so far NONE of the materials were either relevant for me, or--in a large degree--relevant to this time in history/ Maybe they'd be appropriate for a person in long term study, in their 20s or 30s, but as a "path" expedited for a previously self-employed person there was NOTHING they offered that they could advise about UNLESS I was willing to drop MANY MORE THOUSANDS. What, if anything, would be provided for that, is a question I was happy to not ask. So beginning March I called Mr. *******. We had phone tag for about two weeks. Finally I laid out my plea to him, to see if I could withdraw from the program and pay proportionately for the service/study received. He said there was nothing he could do and that I had to talk to "Student Care". Student Care turns out to be a light-hearted young man of about 18 who one could hear both had a script of "No, not a chance, you had 3 days to make such a decision" AND, not a molecule of compassion. He said I should avail my self of what was offered. I thought about that this week and decided to report the matter to the Better Business Bureau. Thank you for your consderation in this matter.

Desired Settlement: I paid $3000. The whole lot, all at once. For 52 weeks of materials availability and 5 sessions of "Coaching". It took some time to sort out what was available to me at that time and I have to say that most of the materials were only available for an advanced place in the studyI'm sure one would have to pay alot more. What was available was, after digestion, of extremely minimal use and value. I would like a proportionate reimbursement of the fee: $2000. I am willing to have paid $1000 for the Coaching and the materials studied, over the 4-5 weeks in which I was fully engaged in the matter. I feel strongly, to my shame, that I was not "of sound mind" when I made this decision, and beg consideration that a Single person (not married with other resources) having taken such a step at the age of 69, be shown some compassion and be permitted a partial refund and withdrawal from the program. Thank you.

Business Response: Initial Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2014/04/04) */ Contact Name and Title: ***** ***** Director of Student Care Contact Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX Ex **** Contact Email: ******@prospering.com You had enrolled with us on 12/21/2013 for our 1 year coaching program. Upon enrollment there are certain agreements and commitments made between both of us. Again, this is a 12 month program as you have also acknowledge, but of those 12 months, you have only utilized 4 of 5 coaching sessions and that was it. You had and still have daily access to the coaching support line as well as graduate/group coaching sessions weekly. These specific resources have not been utilized to the fullest by you. In regards to the program, you have just scratched the surface of help and coaching that is available to you throughout the year, and if needed there is extended help, well after the initial year at no cost, if you are actively using the resources. Below are the commitments that you had agreed to upon enrollment... E*** P***, you were brought aboard because you committed to the following key commitments: 1. You will commit 5 - 10 hours per week of study, planning, and personal development and use the success center as directed by your coach. 2. You will keep the scheduled appointments with your coach. 3. You will be willing to stretch outside of your comfort zone, take action on principles you learn, including doing all homework assignments, and report back to your coach as directed. 4. You will monitor your individual development, growth, and progress as directed in your program materials. 5. You will be open to identifying and overcoming limiting beliefs and obstacles during the personal transformation process. 6. You will complete the Enrollment Agreement, Student Profile, and participate in an orientation call before your first coaching session. After reviewing these commitments you did a fantastic job in the very beginning of the program, but again, this is a 12 month program, not a 2 month program. Based on the agreement and the services that we are still willing to provide, there is no option for a partial refund as you requested. With that being said, We will be more then happy to provide you with some additional coaching sessions for free, on top of the other resources that have been described above, which have not been utilized. We appreciate the feedback that you have brought to our attention and we definitely want to always make this a better program for you and or other students. Looking through all the coaching notes, there was great help and assistance that you had mentioned you received initially from your coach. We would love to get you back with the same coach, or if you feel that you do not want to work with the same coach, we can make an adjustment as needed and provide you those additional coaching sessions. If the timing in your life is not suitable to accept this offer, we understand. We will be willing to offer the original services as agreed upon and even more assistance when you truly feel you have the time needed to dedicate to your self improvement and initial goals. We feel confident if you take advantage of the program in its fullest you will make the needed progress that you initially wanted to achieve from the very beginning, but again, this is a 12 month process and we will do all we can to assist. Please feel free to reach out to me to take advantage of the services and additional coaching as offered. Initial Consumer Rebuttal /* (3000, 7, 2014/04/15) */ (The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.) Thank you for your timely response to my complaint. I do not agree with the Prosper position. I stand by everything I said in my initial statement. Are you, the BBB, able to listen to the initial speechifying by this Avatar **** ********* spouting 19th century wasp "As a man thinketh" exhortations that "if only one stepped boldly, kept thinking positively, one would succeed beyond one's wildest dreams".... that the program starts out with ? They claim that what is offered is a wide range of information and "coaching". Who, longing to find a new path, would not read into this nebulous promise what they so wished for. And so I immersed my self in everything that was made available to me. What I found was that even though to me $3000 was a HUGE amount of money to lay out and all at once, with unforeseeable benefit, what I found was that contrary to what I thought they meant by what they said, this actually bought me about 2% of the materials and "coaching" that was heavy-handed (read: one-sided; don't interrupt me; this is not a conversation) imposition of what I call "about About". This coach, Dr. ****** ********* meant well but all I remember of it was an extended rant about "allowing". I can still hear her repeating over and over "... I allow my brother to allow himself to be murdered...". I have been determined to go deep within my self and find what is the truth about what is holding me back from future success so I did my best to try this "allowing" but I did not find anything she told me or directed me to resonate with me. This is also true of those hours and hours of pre-recorded webinars from years' past. Yeeowweee. I listened sometimes over 10 hours a day wanting to think that "oh maybe the next one will give me insight". At some point I realized that all this speechifying was so generalized and so unfocused and so not a clear path to anything positive that it would have taken 10-20 years for any person to integrate what was heard into any coherent plan. In fact, in March I received (one) email from Prosper praising a student who had made a million dollars after 10+ years with Prosper. At this time I see how the "offer" from Prosper is so carefully phrased, with the carrot of "fer-shur" success and ALL being available (on the site) so that it appeared that if the student devoted one self to everything, material was available to find the education and tools with which to lay out for one self a path for excellent and spiritually rewarding remuneration. Once the money is paid it took about a month to realize that I could either invest thousands more dollars (and I received an upsell call a week or two after starting) to pursue the other "brass rings," or slog through on my own what offerings were available - irregardless of sequencing, relevance, and efficacy. And I was infuriated that it was totally "about About" - remember early personal computer software programs? By using Help files one could teach oneself how to utilize the program. But as the years have passed since the mid-90s) "About" files are ONLY "about About" and have zero content that is useable for real learning of the program purchased. This is exactly the same with this Prosper program. There was NO content that I had access to that I could utilize to map out a path for my self for a potential business, let alone a glimmer of how to find one's "life purpose" when one had lost her way. On top of that, no sooner had I paid out this money when the cottage I had been renting for 15 years suffered an electrical short pre-Christmas into Januarywhich I troubleshot for a week or so then appealed to the Owner to take steps, only to be stonewalled. It was hard to live without refrigeration and I found good reason to fear wiring in the wall overheating (the house is from the 1920's with minimal upgrades.) I felt internally driven for my primary safety to find a place to move to. Once I succeeded with this task and started to calm down, which recognition came to me only slowly with better sleep, I also saw clearly that I had (and I am 69 years old which I made clear to Mr. ******* and begged him to be honest with me about the likelihood for this program to be of real and good use for such as I-to which he assured me that success could be accomplished by following the program, within the year by one of any age not been of clear mind and reason. I made the complaint to you, the better Business Bureau, after I appealed to Mr. ******* and then the Student Care person because I could see that I had made this decision not only not with clarity of reason but from a place of internal panic. And I recognized that the Prosper organization takes advantage of such as I in that how they make this "offer" as well as with a beautifully designed and formatted website which looks abundant but one only knows after paying how little is available-how vacuous and slippery and lacking in useable substance. Yes, I was not in my right mind. Yes I had suffered (in the months previous to being offered this "help") some small cognitive deficits due to emotional shock from which I was somewhat slow to recover in that solutions were not available from medical doctors but required intense research regarding adrenal and hormonal imbalance as a result of extended use of certain medications. I come from a lifetime of some intelligence, initiative, tenacity, resilience as well as a history of past success with a small business. But I fell for the Prosper promise. It's a "suckering" and I am sure that are hundreds if not thousands of suckers such as I who have thrown up their hands and simply allowed themselves to be preachified to and then give up and take the "blame" for lack of success on themselves when Prosper claims they didn't take advantage of all that was offered. Only 20-year olds have time to spend hundreds of hours on this insubstantial material. (And even then, there was only one out of how many studying?) More hours of heavy-handed 19th century "be strong and live right" is not going to get any one anywhere in the 21st century. I choose to speak up, admit my gullibility, protest, and feel strongly that this organization is unethical and especially inappropriately targeting and persisting to sell to such as I. I feel strongly deserving of total reimbursement of my expenditure. I wish one had recourse to recovering the waste of time, energy, and self-recrimination Prosper so high-handedly reinforces. In this 21st century American civilization one must find one's Self and from there discover purpose and heart's desire: this is not in the realm of anything Prosper knows anything about (but which they claimed to, with their so-called "self-development module) and whatever it is they do know about is not available to anyone who pays out a mere $3000. But how could I have known that. I am profoundly grateful for your consideration in this matter. Final Consumer Response /* (3000, 13, 2014/06/06) */ June 6, 2014 Dear ******** ***** Director of Operations,Better Business Bureau: Thank you for your email of June 2nd. In regard to proof of not providing what they claim to, following is a statement received as part of the communication welcoming me to Prosper: "Critical Program Resources Elective Classes Included with your program, you will have access to our entire catalog of elective classes. Elective Classes are supplemental online mentoring classes that allow you to further your course of study or explore other topics of study. Elective Classes provide you with an opportunity to focus on specialized topics. To provide scheduling flexibility, you will have access to a replay of any class that you register for, even if you are not able to attend the live class. Course Curriculum Another critical resource is our course curriculum. You will have access to our up-to-date curriculum to supplement and enhance your educational experience. Our curriculum features engaging information designed to expand the mind and yield professional growth and personal development. You may access the most current version of our course curriculum at the Success Center. (If your program includes hard-copy manuals, you should receive them within 3 to 5 business days.)" NEITHER OF THESE CLAIMS WAS TRUE 1. Elective classesI was permitted access to one (1) "elective" class. EVERYTHING ELSE DID NOT HAVE ACTIVE LINKS. (and when I asked was informed they were for "graduate students"read "when more is paid".) (2) Course curriculum: also totally not true. I had access to only a couple "courses"which were just webinars previously recorded and within the "personal development" area, nothing outside the very limited and restricted confines of "personal development" (about which I will have to say they knew absolutely NOTHING of value). (3). The primary item I was given access to was a series of lectures by an avatar AND when I tried to listen to them in order given, I was "linked" to a website owned by the avatar person, **** ********. When I queried thisit was selling something and I thot it odd that I was being asked to pay for something right away, I was told THIS WAS NOT PART OF THE PROGRAM and they acted as if I had, on my own willful action, decided to go to his website. (which of course is absurd in that I had no idea anything that was actively linked was NOT part of the "path" that I was supposed to follow to listen to all the "lectures". (I was never able to get back to the original "lectures" to complete listening to them, not that I missed anything beyond a strng of references to a 19th c "up by the bootstraps" capitalist. When I called to query something, the response was far from "timely" and by the time they called back and I had called back to mind the exact path that has been taken many days previouslywhich the "support" person questioned what I was doing at every reported turnit was all more trouble than it was worth. Thank you for your kind examination of my response with the advice that I needed to find a middle ground to ask for. I received 4 of the 5 Coaching sessions. I think $1000. for 5 Coaching sessions is far more than they are worth for a porported 12-month year of study and the total of the Coaching was although not rigidly one week apart, no more, the variances I requested for more space of time between were highly resisted. The paragraphs copied from the "Welcoming" letter are typical of the Prosper communications. Flowery language and empty of substance. (In their responses within the BBB report, they reveal their fundamental illiteracy.) I WOULD LIKE TO RECOVER 50%, $1500. I WILL SACRIFICE $1500. TO MY GULLIBILITY AND LONGING FOR HELP TO FIND A NEW BUSINESS DIRECTION. (And, there being no way to see what I was NOT getting, beforehand, I was left to my own mental "picture" was what help for this education would be.) Every scam in the world offers one thing and then in reality acts like you misunderstood, or they disappear. Similarly, these Prosper people claim they are offering x,y,&z; then have the chutzpah to record all communicationswhile the student (me)is struggling to buy into the "education" by the Coach and then try to hold that against me as if I am lying now to say it was a waste, when in reality, after a little aesthetic distance, I see what a bloody pile of garbage they were trying to convince me was "gold". I do so hope this outrageous false promise of education can be held accountable for beng so empty of value. Thanking you so much for your help in this matter. I remain, Sincerely, ***** ********* P.S. Please advise how I pay your fee. Final Business Response /* (31415, 20, 2014/12/10) */ We would like to arbitrate this case.

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Complaint: I cancelled the the day of the order. I've been informed I was getting a refund, however it's been two weeks. I called Purchase date: Sept. 27 2014 Problem/Cancellation date: Sept. 27 2014 Account email: *******@yahoo.com Sales reps: I think one of the names was ***. I wasn't sent a receipt, so I don't have an account number.

Desired Settlement: A full refund of $1000 to my credit card account.

Business Response: Initial Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2014/10/28) */ Contact Name and Title: ***** ***** Director of Student Care Contact Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX Ex **** Contact Email: ******@achievetoday.com ******* you had utilized your cancellation option within the time frame allowed. We honored that refund request. The processing time on our end is 5-7 business days. We informed you of this time frame when you called into the Student Care Department to make the request. Also, we have no control over the merchants / banks processing times. Banks, at times, have the same time frame to process the refund back into your account. This does not happen within a days time. As confirmed, we refunded you the initial $1000.00 dollars since you cancelled within the time frame that the agreement specified. I have confirmation that the refund is complete. Sorry that it did not show back up to your account the day you requested to cancel, but as we explained to you throughout the refund process, it was going to take time for your account to reflect the refunded amount. You have been refunded and cancelled out of our program.

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Complaint: Initially I was told I can cancel after the 12 months. I requested to cancel now because the real time commitment is greater than stated. I called on Wednesday, August 13th regarding cancellation of the program. I purchased the program on July 18th. upon calling, I spoke to a representative at Student Care. I explain briefly that I did not want to continue the program and would like to remove obligation for future payments but was not looking for the initial %550 paid. The representative immediately got an attitude and started stating that I passed the 3 day probationary period. I mentioned the option to cancel later and he started speaking over me and stating that was not true and I will still just be billed for the program. I was a bit taken back by the rudeness and attitude for a conversation that was less that 2 minutes wrong. I didn't call to complain about the program. It just wasn't meeting my needs at this time. He took a bit to transfer me to the supervisor or manager whom I later spoke to. I asked about the refund and they told me it is not fault of their own. My intention was not to drag the coaches name to the ground but I later had to explain that most of the conversation sounded scripted. at times it seemed like she was looking for something to say to relate or not as personable. He offered to assign a different coach but I am just a bit unsatisfied with the service once he started stating that this is really a money issue for me and I have no complaints. I was quite offended because the payment is not a money issue. I just do not want to make payments on a program I am not using. The conversation with the supervisor seemed very condescending in the end and I had no desire to be talked to as such.

Desired Settlement: I would like to cut all my obligation with the company. I have already paid $550 and have a balance of $2200.21 based on the finance terms. I am looking to be removed from the $2200.21 obligation. I have already used their service for the a little over 3 weeks and think it's fair that they keep the initial down payment.

Business Response: Initial Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2014/08/27) */ Contact Name and Title: ***** ***** Director of Student Care Contact Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX Ex **** Contact Email: ******@achievetoday.com Upon enrollment you are informed of the cancellation options you have with the coaching program. Within the agreement it is very specific that you have 3 business days after the initial enrollment, to cancel, after which there are no refunds or cancellations. However, we are very aware that certain circumstances can arise, and so for those certain reasons we take into consideration a cancellation option. In regards to your specific situation, cancellation of the financing agreement is not an option based on your initial request. I have investigated the call recordings that we have on file, and not at any time was I able to hear any representative state that you could cancel at any time, especially after 12 months of the program. In section 4a of the enrollment agreement that you signed, it is very specific as to your right to cancel. It is also very specific in regards to your obligation and accountability to honor the financing contract. I am sorry that you felt frustrated when you called in to cancel and that was not an option available to you. Based on the conversations that you had with us there were two issues that you addressed. First, you felt that the time commitment we had asked you to commit was inaccurate. You felt that you needed to devote more than 5-10 hours a week. That may be the case, however, that is the minimum time allotment that we ask a student to devote each week. We discussed different alternatives that could benefit you and your time commitment, but you did not accept that option. That option again, is to accommodate the coaching around your time frame. That way you have the time availability to devote what you feel is needed to the coaching each week or every other week. Also an option you still have available. Second, you felt that the coach was reading off of a script. As we had explained to you, it is so difficult to have a coach read directly off of a script when coaching you self-improvement teachings that are specific to your needs and goals. I spoke to your coach and also listened to call recordings so that I could get a better feel of what transpired. Your coach would reflect to past coaching notes that she had on file pertaining past conversations that the two of you had. She would also refer to your student profile at times so that she could better assist you. I am sorry you feel at time she was reading off a script, (because there was a pause or hesitation in her voice) but that was not the case. Again, we offered to change coaches and to even add additional coaching sessions for you, and that still was not acceptable to you. We are more than willing to do all we can to better assist you, but based on the reasons given, we will not be cancelling you out of the financial commitment that you have made with us. I encourage you to allow us to do all we can to make sure that this is a program that you receive value with. If you choose not to let us provide the services we initially said we would in the agreement, or if you are not willing to allow us to accommodate to your specific concerns at this time, than that financial commitment is still an obligation you have to honor and be accountable for. The commitments that you said you will keep were to be honored for 12 months; you have only been enrolled for a month and a half. There is so much time and opportunity for you to gain value from our services, at this point in time it is up to you to uphold those commitments so that we can continue to move forward with one another. The coaching will always be here for you to utilize and I would be more than happy to speak to you soon. This way we can make these needed adjustments and have a clearer understanding of the expectations we both will have as we move forward together!

9/2/2014 Problems with Product/Service | Read Complaint Details
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Complaint: They refunded my account, then charged my account again under prosper inc. with they're same phone number and said that business doesn't exist. I subscribed to Achieve Today for life coaching with a guarantee of a full refund for any reason within 3 days. The next day I asked for a refund. They did refund the money only to charge me again under a false business name called prosper inc. Achieve Today then claimed that prosper inc. did not exist and called me names and berated me. They claimed they did not know who this business was. I called the phone number that was on the charge for Prosper Inc. and what do you know Achieve Today answered the phone. After they called me names and belittled me they finally said they were processing the refund now. I already reported them to my bank for fraudulent charges because I highly doubt that they will actually honor what they said. I had to shut down my debit card so they would not try to recharge me again under some other business name.

Desired Settlement: The settlement I am seeking is the 1000.00 refund.

Business Response: Initial Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2014/07/31) */ Contact Name and Title: ***** ***** Director of Student Care Contact Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX Ex **** Contact Email: ******@achievetoday.com ****, you enrolled into our coaching program on 7/10/2014. Upon enrollment you had a 3 business day right to cancel, which you requested to do on 7/14/2014. This request was within your 3 day window, which we had honored. We had processed that refund request of $1000.00 back onto your initial credit card on 7/15/2014. That process takes about 5-7 business days to reflect back to your bank account. Unfortunately we have no control over your banks processing time and how soon that money appears back into your account. You had called and spoke to a few individuals here, that had confirmed the refund information so you could validate that with your bank. I have confirmed that the refund is complete and those funds were returned to you due to your right to cancel within those 3 days. Your account with us is cancelled and that refund was processed and closed out in full on our end on 7/15/2014. Initial Consumer Rebuttal /* (3000, 7, 2014/08/10) */ (The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.) You did not respond to the issue of why you returned my money, then re charged my account under a different business name and then claim that the business did not exist. You're senior coach *** ****** then called me an *** and proceeded to talk down to me because I am smart enough to know when I am being taken advantage of. Thank you for the refund, finally after many arguments with you're coaches and team. Final Business Response /* (4000, 9, 2014/08/15) */ ****, I am sorry for the difficulties that you had with our reps. We apologize for any wrong doings in regards to the conversations that you had with them and we appreciate you bringing those to our attention. We are definitely looking into this matter. In regards to the charges, I spoke to you myself on the phone and I tried to explain the charging procedures and to help you understand them more clearly. We do not charge your credit card right away, we actually do a pre authorization of the money. At which point you see that on your account. 24-48 hours later, our merchant captures those funds. That is why you saw the pre authorization fall off of your account,(This is where you think you received a refund, But there was no refund processed to you at this time). After which, our merchant then captures the initial funds, (This is where you believe we re-charged you). We do billing for a few companies, so the credit card descriptor name is different at times. This is why you saw another name assigned to that capturing charge. There were no additional charges or refunded amounts that took place during this timeline. **** this is not just the way a charge works with us, this is how almost all merchants and banks charge individuals accounts when payments are being processed. Again, something I tried to explain to you, but you were not willing to have that conversation in a professional manner with myself. Once again, we have cancelled you out and had done so by following our procedures and the procedures that are allowed to us by the banks. You have received the refund in full as it was your right to cancel in the time line allowed. We wish you the best of luck. Final Consumer Response /* (4200, 11, 2014/08/23) */ (The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.) I am not new to the way charges occur through banks and purchases. You're company Achieve Today originally billed me the $1000.00 I called the next day and wanted to cancel. I got the run around from you're company. The original bill was from Achieve Today. I had problems getting the refund so I called my bank and after the pre authorization turned into a regular charge and Achieve Today would not give me the refund I disputed the charges with my bank. I then was refunded the $1000.00. One day later after the refund was issued I received another charge for $1000.00 from a different company called Prosper Inc. which I had not had any business relations with. So I called Achieve Today again and asked about the new charges from Prosper inc. and *** ****** told me "that company does no exist" he also said he did not know who that company was. So I looked at the phone number associated with the charge on my bank statement and imagine that when I called the number it was Achieve Today Corporate office. It took several phone calls to you're representatives which I dealt with *** calling me an *** and berating me and saying all kinds of negative things about me. He was unhappy at the fact I could not be played for a fool by you're company. After several phones calls and enduring you reps bad attitude and behavior they finally said they would refund me the money. I also had to notify my bank of fraud in order to finally get the refund. I don't just believe that you charged me twice I have proof of it on my bank statement. I know how the banking system works. Thanks.

6/25/2014 Advertising/Sales Issues | Read Complaint Details
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Complaint: Asked how I would like to have an extra $ 5000.00 to $15000.00 per month. How I would like to build the relationship with my estranged daughters and The whole outcome of what could be achieved is completely a lie. When I finally got a coach to contact me around February 3 months later it was about leaving my abusive husband, How was I going to achieve this. I explained to prosper that I was in financial trouble and was told on several occasions by the sales person how would you like to have an extra $ 5000 to $ 15000.00 in the next 3 months how would you like to have a relationship with your daughters and grandchildren. I tried on several occasions to cancel the contract and have payments refunded and scheduled payments stopped since I had not had any coach talk to me in an eight week period. The only time I heard from prosper in that period when I sent them an email letting them know that they were in breach of the contract and I wanted my money back. Honestly I could go on for hours but this is a sham nothing has changed in my life except I am further in debt still having payments take out of my credit card and disappointed with the whole scenario, they are just high pressured sales people praying on other peoples misery and grabbing to find some benefit in life,

Desired Settlement: Since I did finally here from a coach I would like to two thirds of the amount paid refunded, and cancellation of the money they are still taking our of my credit card. Not that I got any financial benefit or my children and grandchildren in my life just that they finally did ring me 6 times

Business Response: Initial Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2014/06/15) */ Contact Name and Title: Director of Student Care Contact Phone: X-XXX-XXX-XXXX Ext. Contact Email: ******@prospering.com Upon your enrollment on 12/6/2013 you had enrolled into our 12 month Personal Development Coaching program. As I reviewed your student profile that you filled out upon enrollment, you stated that you had personal goals and aspirations that you wanted to accomplish during this 12 month program. Many of those goals were money driven, so that you could improve your financial situation. Other goals were to focus on your personal growth and the reuniting with your family members. These goals that you had in place were very important to you, and during the enrollment process we explained to you that there will be a certain level of commitment on your end to help aid you through the progressions of growth that you set out to accomplish. With that being said, this is a yearly program, the transformations that you are hoping to see, takes time, and consistent efforts. We are committed to continue to assist you in any way that we can so that you can become closer to the goals you set for yourself. I have tried to reach you via phone the last week or so, so that we could discuss the different options available to you. I reviewed call recordings with both the enrollment process and the coaching sessions you had with us. When you enrolled into our coaching program we asked if there were any "Earnings Claims" made to you, meaning, were you promised to make or attract a certain amount of money at any time of the program. You stated "No". The goal of $5,000-$10,000 was a goal that you wanted to accomplish to help your personal financial situation. Any goal or aspiration that anyone may have is a goal of which is important to that person. We as a company would never discourage or de-minimize the value of such goals someone may have. These were your goals, you felt that you could accomplish them and we wanted to be supportive, at the same time making sure you realize that there will need to be a consistent effort and change in your life to reach the aspirations desired. We truly appreciate the feedback and want to do all we can to better assist you. Due to the services that have been rendered a refund is not an option of any kind. I know that you are up to date with the financing of the coaching program, and if we need to discuss different options relating those monthly charges we can. I am more than willing to add some additional coaching sessions for you at no expense. Student Care spoke to you at one point and actually added some additional coaching based on these same concerns addressed above. We have not heard from you or had any contact with you for over two months. This is something I would like to change and make sure that we are both accountable based on the original agreement to do all we can to assist you with your goals during the 12 month coaching program. I would be more than happy to discuss different options to assist you with the financing, and to also assist you with the coaching, which I feel would still be of great value to you based on the time I have taken to review your account and to listen to all the call recordings on file. Please let me know when I can reach out to you to discuss these options in detail, or feel free to contact me at the number listed here, so that we can reach a mutual resolution.

5/19/2014 Billing/Collection Issues | Read Complaint Details
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Complaint: I received a letter from Monterey Collections stating that I owe $ 2200.00 for a coaching program that I never signed up for or received. I WAS SCAMMED OUT OF $ 10,000.00 by Prosper for a debt relief program that turned out to be useless, so I do not think that I would order anything else from this company. Monterey sent a copy of a contract with my name typed on it and declared that it is a legal document?? There is 38 pages of complaints about Prosper with the BBB and as many or more with Monterey. I do not want my credit rating affected by these crooked companies. Product_Or_Service: On Demand Coaching Sessions

Desired Settlement: DesiredSettlementID: Other (requires explanation) I would like this matter resolved so that my credit is not affected. An apology would be n ice also.

Business Response: Initial Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2014/05/12) */ Contact Name and Title: ***** ***** Director of Student Care Contact Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX Ex **** Contact Email: ******@prospering.com ****, you had enrolled into our coaching program on 3/11/2009. At that time of enrollment you had put down $500 dollars and there was a $2000.00 dollar finance charge (Loan). This total amount was for that initial purchase of our coaching services. Upon enrollment you went through a third party enrollment and verification process, were that call was recorded and documented with agreements stating the specific services that you purchased and also the expectations for both yourself and us. There is an agreement that we would be more than happy to send out to you to clarify this enrollment. This is the same agreement that Monterey Financial provided to you. This is not a false document. This was filled out by you online, confirming an IP address and an "electronic Signature" that you had made upon the date of enrollment. This is a debt that Monterey will try to recover due to the agreement in place and services that were rendered. ****, you also purchased additional services with us on 11/20/2009. You mention that you did not want to pay the financing back as you did not receive value or felt scammed; however, you purchased additional services well after the initial financed amount you are addressing above. Before and during the coaching program you had filled out specific forms relating to your goals and aspirations you desired as you pursued this opportunity. As I reviewed these forms, you had very positive and complimentary remarks about the coaching and that you were reaching some of the goals you initially set out to accomplish. We are more than willing to assist you with any concerns that you may have had with the coaching services. Again, at this time, the $2000.00 dollar loan will need to be paid in full to Monterey to avoid any negative credit reporting or collection procedures that they follow. I would be more than happy to speak to you and discuss different options related to the services that we provided to you five years ago. Again, any concerns or specific issues that you may have had with the program, I would be appreciate the feedback from you. At that point in time, we could discuss different resolutions that are applicable to the feedback you provide. Initial Consumer Rebuttal /* (2000, 7, 2014/05/16) */ (The consumer indicated he/she ACCEPTED the response from the business.) I do not remember any of this and I was totally mislead by the get out of debt scam that cost me $ 10,000.00. Also, Monterey is not licenced here in Ontario. I have had the RCMP do a check on them.

3/12/2014 Billing/Collection Issues | Read Complaint Details
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Complaint: 1 year program was completed. Called to discontinue and refund Jan 2014. Didn't discontinue and charged again. The program was for 1 year at $49.95 per month. The year was up, I didn't have time for the program because I worked a lot and when I did the program, getting help was difficult and with very little results; so I opted to not continue with the program. I called and asked that I be discontinued and refunded for January. The person agreed giving me ******* cancellation confirmation code. I called again toward the end of January and the person said that they saw where a refund was issued but it just hadn't made it to my bank yet. Due to the lack of refund, my bank account went into overdraft. February 11, 2014 not only was my account still not credited, it was charged again. I tried calling and only received several different voice mails, I did leave a message. I was never transferred to a live person, nor have I received a call back. If this is resolved quickly, I will not seek overdraft charges as well.

Desired Settlement: I just would like my account refunded in the amount of $99.90.

Business Response: Initial Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2014/02/17) */ Contact Name and Title: ***** ***** Director of Student Care Contact Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX Ex **** Contact Email: ******@prospering.com Our Student Care department reached out to you on 2/12 based on a voice mail you had left us in regards to this billing issue that you stated above. We were able to resolve the issue as requested above and confirm the account is closed and cancelled. We apologize for the oversight with your account and the billing.

3/11/2014 Problems with Product/Service
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Complaint: Prosper's coaching has NOT been coaching at all. I am highly unsatisfied with the way I have been treated and would like an apology and FULL REFUND. I have changed coaches once before with prosper and I am currently sick and tired of them giving me the run around. I have downloaded and practiced the tips they give to NO AVAIL. I have complained about my lack of progress and inability to see any positive changes and all the coach did was get aggressive and informed me to do some homework which I did and submitted. Each time they gave me a suggestion I entertained them and proceeded to do it with NO progress at ALL...Instead I got more heartache and NO HELP when I really needed it. NO PART OF MY LIFE HAS REALLY IMPROVED SINCE JOINING PROSPER. THEREFORE I BELIEVE THAT IT IS WITHIN MY RIGHTS TO CANCEL MEMBERSHIP AND RECEIVE A REFUND.

Desired Settlement: I would like at least 3 months compensation for the money I have paid them for the coaching. I did NOT receive any real coaching and I am disappointed in the way my current and previous coach handled the matter.

Business Response: Initial Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2014/02/06) */ Contact Name and Title: ***** ***** Director of Student Care Contact Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX Ex **** Contact Email: ******@prospering.com Thanks you for taking the time today to speak with me in regards to the program issues you were facing. We appreciate the communication that was provided by you, to help us correct the issues that you had addressed. Based on our conversation and the options that were presented to you, I have processed the option that you accepted. At this point in time we are willing to continue to work with you in the future, that is if you are inclined to be apart of or know more about our one on one coaching, as opposed to the program you apart of originally. Best of luck and again reach out to me if you have any questions. Initial Consumer Rebuttal /* (2000, 7, 2014/02/10) */ (The consumer indicated he/she ACCEPTED the response from the business.)

1/20/2014 Advertising/Sales Issues | Read Complaint Details
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Complaint: This company made it sound easy to pay down debt, pressured us into starting a business. Outrageous amount of money charged for inadequate service. Around November, 2010, we paid this company approximately 8,000 dollars for a debt coaching service. Because of the large sum of money that was charged, we believed that the content of the coaching sessions would produce the desired results. We only received 8 sessions. The content was information that we could have learned elsewhere for free. The sessions were definitely not worth 8,000 dollars. We were then pressured into starting a business as part of paying down our debt. We then invested another 4,000 dollars into starting a business. After 12 sessions, we were dropped and left to fend for ourselves. We are now over 13,000 dollars more in debt because of this company. We voiced our concerns to Prosper. They gave us another year of access to their site, which did nothing. They did give us 4 more sessions with an e-commerce coach. It did start us on the right track, but 4 sessions was not nearly enough to help us.

Desired Settlement: We have tried to get more help with our business from Proper. The additional help that they provided to us was ineffective. We would like our money back so that we can invest it in an advertising company for our business in an effort to pay down the debt that we have incurred.

Business Response: Initial Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2013/12/30) */ Contact Name and Title: ***** ***** Director of Student Care Contact Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX Ex **** Contact Email: ******@prospering.com You enrollment into our program in 2011 was for transferring debt into wealth. This program provided you the assistance to eliminate debt as well as the opportunity to help create additional income to eliminate even more debt. As I reviewed your account, we sent some surveys based on your experience during and after the coaching. You both made comments stating that the coaching was beneficial and that you were able to actually create better spending habits, and better your financial situation so that you can pursue a business. You spoke to a representative in regards to the program and explained that you did not feel you were getting the total value of the program. At that time we added 5 sessions free of charge to help assist your business opportunities. It was explained to you that the program was extended so that you can call in on a daily basis if needed to the coaches. After the additional sessions, there were never any attempts to continue to get the education and assistance that the coaches would be able to provide. A refund is not an option due to the services that were rendered. We are more then happy to assist you in your business opportunities that you are currently involved with. This is up to you. We spoke to you a few weeks back to extend the web access once again, but still you have not called into the coaches on the resource line to get assistance. This is a vital and important part of the 12 month program you enrolled into. This remains to be vital as we have extended access to you for no charge. Information is great but if you are not applying that correctly within your business, then it won't do you any good. You need to communicate with the coaches daily if needed to see the results you are looking for. Again, a refund is not an option. We will offer the continuing assistance and use of the website and coaching services if you can keep the commitments you initially agreed to. If this is acceptable and doable for you, then we will grant access back to the website and the coaching support line so that we can continue to help with your goals.

12/17/2013 Problems with Product/Service | Read Complaint Details
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Complaint: Supposed to be coaching but is actually just customer service aimed at getting clients off the phone quickly and simply parroting rehearsed material. The intial phone call was advertised as a free coaching call, but was purely a sales call without any coaching in it at all. Then hoping to get some real coaching when enetering the service I found coaches not at all interested in finding out what level I was really at in order to guide me. Instead I found coaches simply parrotted rehearsed material that I had already read in the Joe Vitale book and handouts and audios. The elective classes they touted as being a valuable extra were very basic and the website setup has no alert to communicate when the next live class is available, leaving it so the user has to click through every single one just to find out if there is a live class. The coaches on the phone also clearly aimed at getting me off the phone as quickly as possible. In addition my sister had signed up for the free coaching call and was harrassed by the person who repeatedly called her at a time when she had already told them she was unavailble.

Desired Settlement: I want the $100 already paid for cancelling the service refunded as well as the remaining $100 waived.

Business Response: Initial Business Response /* (1000, 5, 2013/11/27) */ Contact Name and Title: ***** ***** Director of Student Care Contact Phone: XXX-XXX-XXXX Ex **** Contact Email: ******@prospering.com Through many emails that have already been exchanged with you, we are willing to come to a mutual resolution to part ways. I have tried numerous times to contact you by phone to finalize and address the issues that you have. We will continue to reach out to you. As you mentioned, you are not free till next week, so please contact me directly so that we can discuss the cancellation and refund request. This is the procedure that we follow pertaining to this specific situation and request you have. Initial Consumer Rebuttal /* (3000, 8, 2013/12/04) */ Hi there, Had arranged a time for Prosper Inc to contact me this morning and they did not call me. Final Consumer Response /* (3000, 11, 2013/12/05) */ Case has been marked, received rebuttal but I did not send any. Below is my rebuttal. I have now waited three mornings in a row for a call from Prosper. Prosper only answered my email, which gave the appropriate times to reach me,four working days later. I offered to resolve the issue via email given the difficult in time differences, but this was refused by propser. A refund is the resolution I would like, however it is not the motivating factor behind my complaint. To the original complaint I'd like to add a complaint about the case worker at prosper on this issue. I can no longer set aside time to wait for Prosper to call. My time spent has already cost far more than $200. Prior to the BBB case the President of Proser wrote an email to me outlining that he would refund the $200 exit fee. I have not received any refund. Final Business Response /* (4000, 13, 2013/12/09) */ Through emails, we have came to an arrangement to part ways. That was a refund of the cancellation fee. Your account is now cancelled and the relationship with you is terminated.

12/10/2013 Billing/Collection Issues

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