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- Response to 2 complaint(s) filed against business.
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CA Public Utilities Commission
505 Van Ness Ave, San Francisco CA 94102
Phone Number: (415) 703-2782
Fax Number: 415-703-1758
The license number is 190480.
U.S. Department of Transportation
Secretary of Transportation, 400 7th Street, S.W., Washington DC 20590
The license number is 070851.
Type of Entity
Limited Liability Company (LLC)
Business ManagementMs. Linda Oakley, CEO Travis W. Oakley, General Manager
Number of Employees
Products & Services
Oakley Relocation LLC offers the following product(s): Packing boxs and tape
Method(s) of PaymentAll major credit cards
Alternate Business NamesAgent for North American Van Lines
Industry TipsMoving Companies
13026 Stowe Dr #A
Poway, CA 92064 (800) 537-4812 (858) 602-1010 Directions
PO Box 503810
San Diego, CA 92150
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Problems with Product/Service
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Complaint: Our household goods were in storage at Oakley Relocation. Seven pieces of furniture were damaged in storage. Plus, the Kitchen Aid mixer leaked a large amount of oil. On many pieces the damage is significant. An additional three pieces of furniture were damaged when Oakley Relocation moved our goods from San Diego to Olympia, Washington on October 9, 2013. Additionally, Oakley's movers damaged the maple flooring in our brand new house. I sent a letter of complaint to North American/Allied Van lines on October 24, 3013. ****** ******, President of Oakley Relocation, was copied on my letter. Neither he, nor anyone at North American/Allied, has responded to my letter. I find this level of rudeness and abysmal customer service completely unacceptable. On November 5, a representative of Reliable Furniture in Tacoma, Washington, contacted us and took pictures of the damage. I've been working with a representative at this firm but **** cannot even discover who is responsible for our claim at a company called ServPro in Fort Wayne, Indiana, who apparently contracts with North American/Allied to service their customer complaints. It is now November 14 and we have received nothing but a complete runaround.
Desired Settlement: My demands are simple. I wish the following... 1. I expect Thomas Oakley to contact me personally to a.) read my letter, b.) apologize for not responding to my letter, c.) apologize for the appaling damage to our furniture and which was caused by people who work for him and d.) pledge to do whatever is necessary to cut the red tape in the North American/Allied Van Lines/ServPro culture to facilitate the repair of our furniture. 2. Everyone involved needs to realize that our furniture is Mid-Century teak. It is not easily replaceable. We categorically refuse to accept any sort of cash settlement. 3. The only acceptable outcome is the repair of our furniture to our complete satisfaction and the replacement of the Kitchen Aid mixer. 4. I expect someone within Oakley Relocation to be assigned to work with me directly to ensure that items 1 through 3 are accomplished to my complete satisfaction
patience throughout our review of the submitted complaint is and has been appreciated.
Oakley Relocation and North American Van Lines would like to apologize for the unfortunate events that have occurred during the relocation. We strive to perform each and every relocation without incident and regret any and all inconveniences that have been caused We understand the importance of customer relations and will continue working with you until all aspects of your relocation have been completed.
We have completely reviewed the complaint and also have reviewed the submitted claim form. Please be advised we received the claim form on 10/25, and assigned adjuster at our Corporate office (SIRVA - Parent Company of North American and Allied Van Lines), on 10/28/13. The adjuster name is ***** Followell, and the claim is currently pending in status. Most claims take anywhere from 20-45 business days to resolve. We show contacting the consumer immediately upon receipt of the form via email. (mail notification sent to: ******@comcast.net Sent by: j************************ Mail Body: Mr. *********, Mr. *********, I have been assigned as your claim adjuster in our home office at North American Van Line. I have assigned a local repair firm to inspect or repair the damage you have reported on your move. The repair firm is Reliable Furniture Service CO at 253-588****** The van line asks the repair firm to call you within 5 working days to make an appointment. You should hear from them shortly. Our records indicate your address is **** ****** ** *** ******** ** *****. If this is incorrect, please advise as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience during this time. ***** ********* 1-800-348-3746 EXT-****)
repair firm was then assigned for evaluation on 11/5/13 and we received
the inspection report on 11/14/13. The claim is in final review to
determine how best to proceed with settlement. The consumer does have a
deductible that needs to be applied and we will do our best to see that
items are repaired where possible.
According to our shipping documents, and review, we do not show where Oakley Relocation or North American Van Lines has misguided the shipper in regards to the claim. We do accept, acknowledge, and apologize for the service failures and damages and our doing our best to resolve in a timely manner and do so within the rules and regulations set forth within our tariff. This claim was and is being addressed fairly and handled by our Corporate office in Fort Wayne, IN. Should the consumer wish to speak with a representative within our company please have them contact our claims manager (M*** ******) directly via phone at 708-925-9671 or via email at email@example.com.
We (Oakley Relocation and North American Van Lines) again regret that the consumer has filed a complaint and are
extremely apologetic for the unfortunate event that has occurred during their
relocation with North American Van Lines.
Thank you for the patinece and time while we continue working with the consumer towards resolution.
Agent for North American Van Lines
P.O. Box 503810, San Diego, CA 92150-3810
E-mail: ************************Website: www.oakleyrelocation.com
Better Business Bureau:
I wish to thank everyone at the Better Business Bureau for your help. As you may recall from my previous email, I wrote *** ****** on October 24, 2013, regarding all the damage to my furniture that was caused by his company. He did not even bother to respond to my letter. Even though he refused to speak with me as I requested in my complaint to you, at least you were able to get him to send me an email. \
Here's a copy of what I sent him today
Thank you for responding to my complaint regarding the services of your business, Oakley Relocation. I appreciate the fact that you have apologized for the way Oakley Relocation failed to meet my expectations. However, I regret that you did not call me, as I requested. I would have welcomed an opportunity to speak with you about the moving services provided by your employees. Yes, I am extremely angry about what happened. However, after my long business career at **** **** *****, I realize all too well that yelling, hollering and generally carrying on when one is furious does little to resolve the situation. However, at this point, I am not about to rule out sarcasm and highlighting key words!
How nice of you to detail the steps that have been made so far to resolve the difficulties I’ve experienced. However, the process has not been even one single, teeny-weeny bit as smooth as you indicate in your email. It would have been MUCH EASIER, if I could have spoke with you directly instead of taking the time to write. However, here’s an outline of what has REALLY taken place since our household goods, some severely damaged, were delivered on October 9, 2013.
My ONLY contact with anyone who has knowledge of the damage has been with ******* (sp?) at Reliable Furniture in Tacoma, Washington. She’s a great, honest woman who is doing her best; albeit being thwarted at every turn by the representatives at SIRVA. I find it amazing that she is the only person who will even communicate with me. It’s no wonder I had to turn to the BBB!
Yes, Reliable Furniture’s representative came out and took pictures. I followed up with ******* and she told me that she submitted my claim on November 5, 2013, and ***** ******** would be handing my claim. On November 6, 2013, I called ******* to ask when ***** would be calling. BTW, during that conversation, ******* confirmed that the damage to my furniture was the result of poor packing.
After that, the whole process went completely south. On November 8, 2013, I called ******* to find out why ***** hadn’t called me. ******* told me she’d been informed that ***** ******** had retired and my claim was being assigned to Heather Amstutz . ******* remarked that Heather had asked for documentation related to my claim. Of course, I never heard from Heather. I spoke with ******* on November 12, and she told me she thought someone name ***** ***** would be assigned to my claim. Later that day, ******* informed me that ***** wasn’t retiring; she was on vacation and my claim would have to sit until she returned. I told ******* that leaving my claim to sit, untouched, until ***** returned from vacation was totally unacceptable. ******* agreed to try and resolve this latest bottleneck. On November 14, 2013, I realized that both ******* and I were getting a complete, thorough runaround from the people at SIRVA who are supposed to be HELPING me. Aside from *******, NO ONE WOULD CONTACT ME ABOUT ALL THE DAMAGE TO MY FURNITURE. I’ve worked with the members of the BBB in San Diego over the years I spent at John Hine Mazda, so I turned to them for help.
And help they did. At least then you responded regarding my claim instead of totally ignoring the letter I sent to you dated October 24, 2013.
On November 15, 2013, ******* informed me that her report of my losses had been lost and she would have to resubmit. This strikes me as completely bogus since Heather Amstutz had requested information regarding my claim on November 8, 2013. It’s just one more example of how totally useless SIRVA is when it comes to competently handling customer claims. It’s now November 18, 2013, and, aside from yourself and Reliable Furniture, NO ONE HAS CONTACTED ME REGARDING MY CLAIM!!!
However, here’s my bottom line.
1. I realize full well that I have a $500 deductible and have no difficulty paying that sum toward the repair of my furniture. I wish to state categorically that anything less than the repair of my furniture to my complete satisfaction, the replacement of my Kitchen Aid mixer, the restoration of my hardwood maple floor and the prompt repair/replacement of any other damage and/or loss that I may find during the unpacking process is the only resolution of this situation that I will accept. Period. End of conversation. This is NON NEGOTIABLE!!! I trust you understand.
2. Since you’re not available to speak with a customer who spent over $16,000 over the past year for your substandard services, I expect a phone call from **** ****** immediately. I can be reached at 360 742-3104 or on my cell 619 884-1639. I cannot even imagine why you expect me to pay for a long-distance phone call after the total run around and general abysmal customer service I have received from Allied/North American Van Lines.
3. I insist that my claim with the BBB remain open until my demands listed above under #1 are completely resolved to my total satisfaction.
If you’ve bothered to read this far, I want to thank you for your time. Even though you’re totally adverse to speaking with one of your customers, I trust you WILL STEP UP TO THE PLATE and ensure that all necessary steps are taken to achieve my complete satisfaction.
We are working with the consumer and will continue to do so until
13026 Stowe Drive
Poway, CA 92073
Better Business Bureau:
**** ****** HAS NOT CONTACTED ME
I (**** ******) have spoken with the customer this morning. We have discussed our service failure
13026 Stowe Drive
Poway, CA 92073
Better Business Bureau:
The purpose of this email is to confirm that I spoke with **** ****** of North American/Allied this morning. It was a good conversation. He indicated to me that he is confident that the repair/replacement process should begin NLT Tuesday November 26, 2013. I am very hopeful that my furniture and the damage to my brand new maple floor will be repaired and my Kitchen Aid mixer will be repaired/replaced in accordance with my wishes.
As I indicated earlier, I am hopeful that my complaint will be resolved to my satisfaction. However, I wish to emphasize that I do not wish to close this claim until Oakley Relocation and North American/Allied Van lines have actually followed through and completed everything promised to me today by **** ******.
Once again, I wish to emphasize how deeply indebted I am to the assistance I've received from the BBB. As you know from my previous emails, I've been tilting at this "windmill" since October 24, 3013. Totally frustrated and furious at the run-around I received from North American/Allied, I turned to the BBB on November 14, 2013. Four business days later it apears as if a process to settle my complaint will actually take place. You guys are the greatest!
BBB's Final Determination: After reviewing the position of all parties, BBB determined that the business made a reasonable effort to address the complaint. However the consumer remains dissatisfied.
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Complaint: Don't use if you actually want to know where your things are or get them in one piece on the expected delivery date! Recently used them on a cross country move from Southern California. Everything sounded good on the phone and I was able to arrange for Ashley to come up and give me an in-person estimate, which inspired confidence. After that, it was all downhill. I got a call a week before the agreed move date saying that there was an earlier truck that they could get my things on which would likely get them to my destination by the following Friday. We rushed to get everything together in the far shorter time window and succeeded. The day of the move, they showed up almost three hours late. The people who were packing were not the ones driving, so the trailer went on to be re-loaded. Once I got to my destination, everything went wrong. The truck was not going to be there that Friday, but I was told it would definitely be there on Sunday. On Sunday after placing several calls to both Ashley and to the truck driver, the driver finally calls back to say that they have no idea where the trailer is. The truck finally made it to my place a full week after the company and driver told me it would be there, but several things were missing or damaged, including several items that the company packed themselves. Throughout the whole process communication with the company was next to impossible. After I finally got my things, I was given a delay compensation form to fill out, but guess what? My claim was rejected for still being within the window of delivery! Despite the fact that their agent gave me his word on the delivery date, the actual delivery was within their ten day delivery window and they don't feel I am owed anything for my time or suffering. I guess that's the difference between laws and morals. I'd pass on Oakley in favor of a business that cares about and actually keeps in touch with their customers.
Desired Settlement: I expect compensation for expenses incurred due to delivery being a full week after the agreed upon date, despite this being a verbal agreement. I also expect full payment for damaged and lost items.
We have completely reviewed the complaint and also have reviewed the submitted claim form. According to our shipping
Better Business Bureau:
At the end of the day, a customer should NEVER heard a moving company tell them that an entire trailer of their belongings is missing. That, paired with the fact that it was next to impossible to get a representative on the phone throughout the ordeal is incredibly poor customer service and merits restitution. The fact that not all of my belongings arrived and that of those that did, many were damaged speaks extremely poorly of North American Van Lines and their affiliate Oakley Relocations.
The consumer is correct in that we did receive his delay claim and a list of damages. However,
13026 Stowe Drive
Poway, CA 92073
BBB's Final Determination: Business offered a resolution. Consumer did not pursue further with BBB and the matter was assumed to be resolved